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« on: February 02, 2007, 22:46 PM »
Wildlife study trip to Pre-Pyrenees

Organised by Galanthus and Ibierianature. Àger, Mont-rebei and Boumort, one of the best places to watch fauna in Catalonia

Dates: 24 and 25 February 2007. Barcelona pick-up and drop-off.
Most of the people coming will be biology students from Barcelona university. Cost is just 50 euros. Leaves from Barcelona. Half board in hostal


Send me an email or post here if interested.

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« Last Edit: February 23, 2007, 20:07 PM by nick »
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« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2007, 20:08 PM »
We're off first thing tomorrow: Hopefully get to see a lammergeyer.
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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2007, 11:23 AM »
Greetings Nick,
Hope you had a great weekend and got to see your bone-smashers.
This trip was too short notice for me this time round, but please let us know for the next time.
Would it be feasible for my kids (10 & 13) join the wildlife study group or is the going too tough?
They've both got plenty of hiking experience in the Picos de Europa and Guadalajara, etc., and they're better off being guided by biology students who know what they're at rather than by their old man who can't tell the diff. between a lammergeyer and a golden eagle unless both are sitting still in front of him and he has plenty of coloured photos to compare them with.
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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2007, 23:09 PM »
Had a great time thanks. Something on this when I get time this week. Your kids would be welcome to join a group, but for legal reasons you'd have to come too. To take out children you need to be a trained monitor. I'm not. After a number of accidents over the year the law is now very strict, at least in Catalonia.

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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2007, 10:17 AM »
Nick,
Thanx - but not mention of bone-smashers!
Don't worry, I had no intention of palming the kids off on anybody - I need to take them along 'cos then they can help me when I get tired!
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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2007, 23:26 PM »
Hi all,

Am a bit inundated with work. Here a quick summary of last weekend's trip, a couple of photos and a link to more by one of the party

Had a great time. We started out from the car park a couple of km from the Congost de Mont-rebei. Straight away we had raptors above our heads and within a few minutes a golden eagle flew over, accompanied by a distant young lammergeyer. But the best came just when we entered the gorge itself as a pair of lammergeyers soared past their colours beautiful even without binoculars. As moved along they lazily floated past again. Highlight of the day. The gorge itself is spectacular, with the Noguera Ribagornza below divding Catalonia from Aragon. Later on we scambled up to an alleged bat cave, though managed to see none. The front was caked in red-billed chough feathers and droppings. 100 or so called from above the cave as we clamboured down and then swooped inside in fantastic formation. Mont-rebei is famed for its otter population so back outside the gorge we hacked down to river and found tracks though saw (nor expected to see) otters. Most of the next day was somewhat dampened by rain, though in the afternoon as we ate our picnc by a river, the sun came out and we trained a couple of telescopes on a gaggle(?) of vultures scrapping over the ends of carrion. Others circled above, presumbly having had their fill. Finally we stopped further up near Aiguastortes and walked around a Karstic lake. A single huge earth-mother of a common toad hugged by a smaller male lay silently in the water. Surely this is very early, and more so, so far north?

Gorge mine, lammergyer by fellow excursionist and Barcelona metro driver, José. More photos here from him:
http://www.kodakgallery.com.es/ShareLandingSignin.jsp?Uc=5dyvw05x.all7b3rx&Uy=-4mg6bh&Upost_signin=Slideshow.jsp%3Fmode%3Dfromshare&Ux=0&UV=407004992753_520090535133
« Last Edit: March 02, 2007, 00:14 AM by nick »
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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2007, 15:47 PM »
Greetings Nick,
Thanx for finding time to fill us in on the excursion - just from that one photo and to use your own term, it must have been spectacular - dare I say the place you went to looks gorgeous?

Not especially afraid of heights, but the way they drive over here I wouldn't want to be overtaken in the rain on one of those bends, even on foot!
If you're planning a return visit, give me a head start and I'll wait for you all down on the riverbank, having safely taken the non-scenic route. No wish whatsoever to have my battered body gnawed at by vultures or lammergeyers. I'm sure there's plenty of wildlife around at lower levels.
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« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2007, 15:55 PM »
And mushrooms!
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« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2007, 19:13 PM »
Nick
Yes I agree with Technopat, looks amazing the gorge photo is stunning, a little bit like the Cares gorge in between Leon and Asturias, possibly a little deeper. however Technopat is mistaken the bottom seems quite narrow, so there is unlikely to be Mushroom ( please do not knock a star off for that)
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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2007, 20:27 PM »
Dave,
No room for a mushroom?
I'm sure we'd come across the odd spore or two - or should that be spoor? Ouch!
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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2007, 09:09 AM »
I'm jealous about the lammergeier, still not seen one in the Picos personally. Is that a terrapin in the last pic?
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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2007, 10:31 AM »
Beautiful plummage, those terrapins!
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« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2007, 20:38 PM »
Hi, all,

Just got back from a food weekend in Zaragoza. Now I'm reading all your posts. Worrying and enjoyable outbreak of puns.

I am a little scared of heights I must admit but there's good sturdy rope to cling to. Other people just breezed past me as if on a Sunday stroll.
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« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2007, 23:19 PM »
Greetings Nick,
Food weekend trips to Zaragoza definitely belong to the Food in Spain board at http://www.iberianatureforum.com/index.php?topic=58.0
Looking forward to reading all the gory details.
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« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2007, 23:37 PM »
Hi Nick,

Good to hear that the rain held off for your trip to Mont-Rebei. Why is it that everyone else sees golden eagles up there when I don’t – even after twenty years!

Just a few comments on some of the points raised in the forum: the water level is very low in your photo’s, this is not just because of the drought, but I understand repair work is under way on the reservoir itself. Normally the still waters extend up to the car park that you mentioned.

Furthermore, there is an outward-bound outfit based at Cellers on the Noguera Pallaresa which does pirogue trips through the ravine and into the lake beyond, so for those too terrified to brave the path that’s another option. They also offer adventure days for children, but I’m not sure if they do so now having read your comments about licensing.

Later in the year you should be able to see nestling vulture chicks on the cliffs opposite the Mont-Rebei trail, there’s a useful rock for mounting tripods, etc. right opposite as the path leaves the ravine itself. There are also on-line views of feeds and nests in the La Terreta vulture reserve run by the town of Tremp: www.ajuntamentdetremp.com

Hope this is useful to folks out there.

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« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2007, 00:13 AM »
Thanks for that Simon. We had all assumed it was drought - which is still here in Catalonia for those of you in the recently releaved areas
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« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2007, 00:14 AM »
Do you know the direct link to the vulture cam?
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« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2007, 20:30 PM »
Yes, go to the Ajuntament web site home and select "La Terreta" (which is the collective name for all the sierras to the west of Tremp as well as the reserve itself) then use your Catalan skills to decipher "Imatges en directe" and there you'll find it - there is a note that it operates from 08.00 - 18.00, however.

Meanwile, another querie. Can you confirm whether there is a blanket ban on feeding vultures?  If so it might explain why I've been seeing groups of up to 100 griffons from Casa Rafela over the last year! There's a landfill about a K away so we're used to vultures and kites, but not in these numbers!

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« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2007, 22:16 PM »
Each autonomous community has its own ways of interpreting EU rules. There is no ban, as such but in Aragon, most of the feeding stations have suddenly been closed in the last year. Catalonia, as far as I know have not closed stations.

You're near the frontier, aren't you? so I think you'r seeing maraunding Aragonese vultures on sorties over the border, as it were.
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« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2007, 18:35 PM »
Hmm, could well be, they appear from over the back of the Serra de Montllobat, but that would also lead to the La Terreta reserve. So next question is, where is the nearest griffon population to let's say, Benabarre in Huesca?

Simon