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binocularface
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« on: July 21, 2010, 19:00 PM »

Hi,

I am hoping someone can give me some help with the ID of these insects (all taken in the Alicante/Valencia area):

1) Cicada species



1) Cicada Species



2) Grasshopper species



2) Grasshopper species



3) Grasshopper Species



4) Grasshopper Species (maybe same as above)



5) Grasshopper species



6) Cricket species (I think)



6) same as above



7) Grasshopper species



Cool Grasshopper species



9) Locust species (possibly Egyptian Locust)



Many thanks
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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2010, 20:34 PM »

1 The cicada one again. This species had come up before a couple of times and don’t think we ever got to the bottom of it. The closest fit I can find is C.orni but don’t think it is it. Really need to get this IDed this time I feel, obviously a frequent occurrence in some areas.
2, 3, 4 and 8 – look like Oedipoda type species.
5 no idea
6 and 9 – Egyptian grasshopper
7 – no idea


Ill have a look to try to ID the Oedipoda to species and the “no idea” ones as well. Don’t hold your breath though. Maybe Jesus can give you more detail.

Andy

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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2010, 00:08 AM »

5 looks like Ramburiella hispanica.

Best,

Thomas
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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2010, 18:50 PM »

Dear friends and collegues:

About the cicada, I asked to Manuel Baena (iberian entomologist) and answer me so: (quoted with his permission)


Hola Jesús:

Te paso la clave de Cicada orni/barbara que como verás no es muy concluyente. Es lo único que tengo.
 
Color del insecto amarillo oliváceo oscuro, el postclípeo negro; alas anteriores con las cuatro manchas negras grandes situadas en las nerviaciones en zigzag.  C. orni.

Color del insecto amarillo oliváceo pálido. Postclípeo con una mancha subasal amarilla; alas anteriores con dos manchas negras en las nerviaciones en zig zag y a veces otras dos más pequeñas. C. barbara.

La mejor manera de separarlas es escuchar el canto que puedes encontrar en:

http://www.cicadasong.eu/cicadidae/cicada-orni.html
http://www.cicadasong.eu/cicadidae/cicada-barbara-lusitanica.html
 
Hay también imágenes que te pueden ayudar a separar las dos especies.



many thanks Manuel, for your report.

Jesús Contreras
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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2010, 20:23 PM »

Thanks for this further information Jesús.

Based on the sonogram I would have to say that the Cicada has to be Cicada barbara.

Regards
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2010, 22:01 PM »

#4 should be Oedipoda caerulescens due to the step-like narrowing of hind femur.

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Thomas
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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2010, 10:09 AM »

Great site/link Jesus/Manuel clapping

There is a good insight into both species in the introduction to Calling songs of sympatric and allopatric populations of Cicada barbara
and C. orni (Hemiptera: Cicadidae) on the Iberian Peninsula
by SOFIA G. SEABRA, GABRIELA PINTO-JUMA and JOSÉ A. QUARTAU, available as a PDF here: http://www.eje.cz/pdfarticles/1180/eje_103_4_843_Seabra.pdf

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Steve
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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2010, 10:49 AM »

Thanks for this - fascinating stuff!
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« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2010, 19:22 PM »

Hi All,
i'm just catching up with posts so sorry to be late, and then only to give a direction and not an answer  booklook
but I think that number 6 is in the Pamphagidae family
 = it has a round eye (egyptian grasshopper has a striped eye) the knotched pronotum and horizontal eye stripe are probably good clues if you know the family, as are the wings which most don't have.
If anyone has the time then the answer might be here   http://www.biodiversidadvirtual.org/insectarium/Superfamilia+Pamphagoidea-cat1571.html
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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2010, 14:11 PM »

sue,

yes you are right. sorry for the error. I should have looked more closely.

Andy
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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2010, 19:26 PM »

Hi All,
i'm just catching up with posts so sorry to be late, and then only to give a direction and not an answer  booklook
but I think that number 6 is in the Pamphagidae family
 = it has a round eye (egyptian grasshopper has a striped eye) the knotched pronotum and horizontal eye stripe are probably good clues if you know the family, as are the wings which most don't have.
If anyone has the time then the answer might be here   http://www.biodiversidadvirtual.org/insectarium/Superfamilia+Pamphagoidea-cat1571.html

Thanks for this,

I have had advice privately regarding this individual and the opinion was that it was most likely Oedaleus decorus. Can anyone confirm this?

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« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2010, 09:58 AM »

Hi,
having done an image search for Oedaleus decorus, i'd say that they are not the same insect as the pronotums are different shapes, Oedaleus decorus does not have that distinctive step down half way along the upper edge.
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