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Iberian geography, history, geology, environment and climate => Geography and geology => Topic started by: lucy on February 19, 2008, 12:09 PM

Title: stone huts
Post by: lucy on February 19, 2008, 12:09 PM
I've just posted a couple of photos from a trip to Asturias last summer of a braña in the natural park of Somiedo.

http://www.iberianatureforum.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=168

http://www.iberianatureforum.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=169


Nick S. also has a stone pastoral hut from the Sierra de Gata

http://www.iberianatureforum.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=130
Title: Re: stone huts
Post by: Simon on February 19, 2008, 13:55 PM
Hi Lucy and Nick et al,

There's now a heritage trail around the Tarragones and baix Caqmp commarcas based on the old stone huts - makes a change from Santes Creus!

Simon
Title: Re: stone huts
Post by: Spanish Footsteps on February 19, 2008, 14:27 PM
Hola amigos

What do you call them in your area??  In Soria we call them CHOZOS.

alfredo
Title: Re: stone huts
Post by: Clive on February 19, 2008, 14:54 PM
Hi all,

Thank you Lucy for starting this topic... It is exactly what I hoped for whilst fiddling around with the gallery idea..

In this part of Andalucia they are also referred to as "Chozos" Normally they are circular built and not square and always had a roof made of tree heather Erica arboria, Brezo blanco in Spanish

I wonder how many names we can come up with for these structures?

Clive
Title: Re: stone huts
Post by: Spanish Footsteps on February 19, 2008, 17:56 PM
Hola amigos

We have the 2 kinds here, round and made of stone all the way (egg shaped) and also square ones too.  I will see if I can get a few photos together of the different types. 

alfredo
Title: Re: stone huts
Post by: nick on February 19, 2008, 19:38 PM
That is remararkable Alfredo.
Title: Re: stone huts
Post by: Spanish Footsteps on February 19, 2008, 22:07 PM
Many of the 'egg' shaped chozos in Soria have caved in, however there are still some examples that have been preserved, although never used anymore.
Its amazing how small they are.
alfredo
Title: Re: stone huts
Post by: nick on February 20, 2008, 00:37 AM
Lucy, I've moved yer 'uts 'ere.

http://www.iberianatureforum.com/index.php?action=gallery;cat=37

Alfredo,

Could you upload your Sorian hut as well. It would be in good company.
Title: Re: stone huts
Post by: Technopat on February 20, 2008, 01:13 AM
Greetings All,
Interesting thread unravelling here. Particularly struck by alfredo's one which looks as if it's been strategically located (and built tall) so as to be seen from a distance.

Re. Simon's heritage trail, does it follow the disused cañadas?

I knew of choza:

Quote
(Del gall. o port. choza).
1. f. cabaña (? construcción rústica).
Real Academia Española © Todos los derechos reservados

and the same source gives chozo as a small choza

Regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: stone huts
Post by: Technopat on February 20, 2008, 01:19 AM
PS.
Can someone jog my memory (can't remember if I read it at iberianatureforum or elsewhere): why are round constructions more efficient when erected as stand-alone buildings (I suppose in ever-increasing villages requiring buildings erected next to each other straight(-ish) walls make more sense ...)?
Title: Re: stone huts
Post by: lisa on February 20, 2008, 08:29 AM
Dispensing with the need for a roof? Easier to build? So the whole structure effectively becomes a roof?
Title: Re: stone huts
Post by: Spanish Footsteps on February 20, 2008, 09:39 AM
Thats right, the Igloo effect.
Title: Re: stone huts
Post by: lisa on February 20, 2008, 14:08 PM
Sturdy in strong winds too then? I found this blog where apparently they're called Pallozas, pallaza o casas de teito. (http://reinolvidado.blogspot.com/2006/11/pallozas-pallaza-o-casas-de-teito.html) The first two being Galician names and the latter from León.
Title: Re: stone huts
Post by: Technopat on February 20, 2008, 18:26 PM
Greetings Lisa and All,
Thanks for that interesting link.

Does casa de teito mean what I think it means?  :technodevil:  - as in Galicia's http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queso_de_tetilla ...

Regs.,
Technopat

PS.
Sp. wikipedia also gives teitel or teitu:
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teito
Title: Re: stone huts
Post by: Technopat on February 20, 2008, 18:28 PM
No corners for dust to gather in ... :)
Title: Re: stone huts
Post by: lisa on February 21, 2008, 12:43 PM
Only if they're small  :biggrin:
Title: Re: stone huts
Post by: Jill on February 23, 2008, 17:48 PM
Round structures are always stronger than square ones. Hence, the Greeks had round columns, and Heinz make round tin cans.

But I'm not sure about the roof. A domed stone roof must surely be far harder to build than one made from wood and tiles. I would imagine that these huts and the igloos are both built that way for the same reason: no wood was available.

How old are these stone huts?
Title: Re: stone huts
Post by: Spanish Footsteps on February 24, 2008, 14:40 PM
Hola

I cant speak for the whole of Spain, but  I believe the dome huts in Soria are built that way to stop the roof caving in with the winter snows.

Many of the large majadas (barns) structures which have losa (flagstone roof) have caved in as a result of the harsh snows in the past.  As Arab style terracotta tiles were not available here, only flagstone slabs.  In Soria you can tell the date of a structure by the windows, roof, Chimney and main door, flagstone structures are at least 150 years old.

alfredo
Title: Re: stone huts
Post by: steveT on February 25, 2008, 21:32 PM
You've also got the Castros of Galicia ....... I visited one years ago on the coast - coastal erosion had undermind part of the settlement. I think they were round ..... the roofs were missing if I remember correctly .....perhaps some were made of domed rock? I do'nt think they had been in the settlement I saw mind.

steveT