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Offline Just Jane

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« on: April 20, 2014, 17:26 PM »
Seen near Agres, Alicante province, on a walk to find the ice caves.  Is it a ladder snake?

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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2014, 17:51 PM »
I would say it looks like a ladder snake  :)

Offline quentin

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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2014, 16:56 PM »
What about Southern Smooth Snake?

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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2014, 22:15 PM »
Hi Jane, could you crop the original image to show just a bit more than the head and then enlarge it so that we can see the pattern detail please,
thanks,
Sue
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2014, 13:23 PM »
Sorry for the delay in posting this close up, computer problems.

I hope this is enough for you to be able to ID this snake.  I was using a compact camera, so unable to get as much info as I would have liked

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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2014, 20:10 PM »
I'm sticking with Southern Smooth snake. The "ladder" looks a bit cock-eyed and it's head is fairly fine with a truncated snout.

Andy

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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2014, 22:30 PM »
I agree with quentin here, also given the dark marking between and behind the eye. Thanks for the zoomed in image, it certainly helped.
Southern Smooth Snake - Coronella girondica - Culebra lisa meridional
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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2014, 19:30 PM »
When I saw the first image, i also thought ladder snake, like Maria.
The blown up cropped image shows the line through the eye which really identifies it as the southern smooth snake,  coronella girondica

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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2014, 19:49 PM »
Thank you for the ID - I do like to know what I am seeing.  We were having to watch our feet on this walk, as we were walking uphill on a gravel path, very easy to slip.  We we almost stepped on this snake as it was crossing our path and very well camouflaged against the gravel.

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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2014, 10:21 AM »
Ha ha I wonder how many of these I've seen and thought ladder snake.
New lesson for me, thanks everyone.