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San Glorio bears
« on: February 17, 2007, 12:06 PM »
Hello from the Picos! I wish my first post was more upbeat but...
The project for a ski resort in the mountains of Leon, Palencia and Cantabria (San Glorio) is still being stalled by environmental reports and conservation groups. Apart from the destruction of these mountains with all the building, piste-making, huge car parks, etc. and the contamination of soil and rivers with artificial snow- making, the project would mean the end of the Iberian brown bear in these territories by removing a very important corridor of access between the two surviving population pockets. The majority of the local population are under the impression that the project will bring hordes of piste skiers to their region whereas the reality is that these mountains are relatively low compared to the Pyrenees and the Alps, with uncertain snow conditions and high winds. A new petition, addressed to Cristina Narbona, the Spanish Minister for the Environment, can be signed at; http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/418999897
Please take some time to support this cause.


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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2007, 18:29 PM »
Hola,

All signed with best wishes and good luck from us down here in the Sierra de Grazalema. Sue will also sign it later.

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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2007, 18:39 PM »
Hi Lisa
Signed and sent
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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2007, 19:08 PM »
Same here - actually did a couple of days ago

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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2007, 20:30 PM »
Lisa

Thanks for providing the link to the petition....have signed.

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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2007, 22:47 PM »
Thanks everyone. The more we can spread it around the better.
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2007, 23:50 PM »
Lisa,
Thanx for informing us - have signed and sent and will spread the word.
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« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2007, 14:32 PM »
Here's a brief update on developments as I see them, wading through the intricacies of Spanish law.
Proceedings have started against a plan to modify a law (la Ley de Ordenación del Territorio) to enable building projects to go ahead in protected areas if seen to be of financial or social benefit to local populations. It's now in the hands of the Defensor del Pueblo, who it is hoped will take the case to the Tribunal Constitucional. http://www.pdsg.es/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=100
A Valencian-based Green MEP, David Hammerstein, is continuing questioning the imbalance of EU money funding conservation laws for protected zones and then possibly funding speculative construction in them, "la Junta de Castilla y León no puede coger financiación comunitaria durante años para proteger al oso y ahora pedir permiso para destruir el centro de su há¡bitat....No es aceptable modificar las zonas de protección natural europea al antojo de los intereses especulativos de un proyecto de muy dudosa rentabilidad social."
http://www.davidhammerstein.org/David/portal.php?menu=4&submenu=9&pagina=1&buscar=san+glorio
Will try and keep you all posted with news here.
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2007, 16:01 PM »
Petition update; http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/418999897 is now on nearly 1.500 signatures. (I'll also be sending it to Stavros Dimas.)
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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2007, 15:15 PM »
"El puerto de San Glorio" - TV2 Sunday 6th May 20:30
(In case you all missed http://www.iberianatureforum.com/index.php?topic=300.0)
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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2007, 18:42 PM »
From Fapas - Hoy;

"Ayer sábado,  el FAPAS participó en la reunión de trabajo convocada por ADENA, SEO, Fundación Oso pardo y FAPAS a la que asistieron varios expertos en temas de economí­a y desarrollo rural.

Este primer taller de trabajo ha tenido como objetivo comenzar a valorar la situación de los territorios de las provincias de León y Palencia donde se pretende construir una macro estación de esquí.

Una de las valoraciones más importantes a las que se llegó, está vinculada  con los verdaderos objetivos de esta iniciativa empresarial. Resulta evidente que  la situación climatológica actual y las perspectivas que vaticinan los científicos para los próximos años con un proceso de calentamiento global y cambio climático, son contrarias a los objetivos de favorecer la construcción de esta estación para deportes de invierno.

Las organizaciones convocantes de esta iniciativa pondrán en marcha una estrategia de trabajo para valorar posibles alternativas socioeconómicas para estos territorios de montaña.
 
Una estación de esquí que sirve de pantalla para otros intereses;
Sin ir más lejos, este mismo año, parece que ha sido económicamente catastrófico para los negocios de invierno, en especial las estaciones de esquí. Por tanto, empeñarse en realizar grandes inversiones económicas (con fondos comunitarios), pagados por todos los  ciudadanos de la Unión Europea y que  van a ser empleados en financiar un proyecto privado, parece que tiene detrás otros intereses  especulativos más allá del planteamiento de construir una estación invernal de esquí.

Trasladar los intereses especulativos de la construcción a la montaña, ahora que las estrategias de construir en la costa grandes urbanizaciones es cada vez más complicado, tanto por la ausencia o costes del suelo, como por la aplicación de las normativas ambientales, parece ser la verdadera estrategia que se esconde detrás de estas iniciativas de construir estaciones de esquí en un periodo que climáticamente no va a ayudar a que estas instalaciones sean rentables, tal como ya está pasando con otras estaciones de la Cordillera Cantábrica."

I've copied the whole thing so you don't have to see the awful picture of someone giving a presentation, but if you must;
http://www.fapas.es/notifapas/hoy/2007/20070429_sanglorio.htm

 
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Re: San Glorio bears
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2007, 16:27 PM »
Dear all,
so, la Junta de Castilla y León having modified the law to allow the building of a ski resort, if seen to be of financial benefit to the local community  ::), are now waiting for the (finally) finished project by Tres Provincias (asked for last November) to be handed to them. Apparently it'll take them about 10 months to evaluate the environmental reports;
"La empresa promotora del complejo invernal de San Glorio ya tiene en sus
manos el proyecto final de la estación totalmente concluido, así como el estudio
ambiental. En estos momentos, espera que la Junta remita sus consultas o cuestiones
respecto a la memoria ambiental que enviaron en noviembre antes de presentar la
documentación definitiva y completa, por si hubiera que modificar algún aspecto.
Cuando la institución autonómica disponga ya de toda la documentación precisará al
menos diez meses para realizar la declaración de impacto ambiental. Un trámite de
estas características para un plan sencillo requiere entre cuatro y seis meses, aunque
la complejidad del paraje donde tiene previsto construirse la estación de esquí obligará
a emplear a la Junta al menos otros cuatro meses más del periodo normal para la
declaración."
http://www.pdsg.es/index.php
Also on the homepage, links to Youtube where the taped videos from the recent television news and documentary are available to watch. (The Linea 900 programme has been split into 3 parts.)
Other video clips too - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ODGbU5qkbk
Did anyone read the report of 2 naturalists proving the existence of bears in the valleys involved in the April issue of Quercus?
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« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2007, 18:00 PM »
While I'm at it I suppose I should put a link to the proposal by the elusive company of Tres Provincias, whoever they are; http://sanglorio.net/modules.php?name=El_Proyecto
Also a link to Ciberacción de Greenpeace for a petition against the rural urbanisation of the so-called Ciudad del Medio Ambiente project in Soria. If it goes ahead it will be the first project approved after the change in the law.
http://actua.greenpeace.es/cyberaction/show/el-crimen-de-soria
Next could be San Glorio.
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« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2007, 18:54 PM »
Greetings Lisa,
Thanx for that link to Greenpeace - you can always (more or less) count on four e-signatures from the Technopat clan.

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« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2007, 08:29 AM »
Thanks Technopat. Re my own petition, it seems to have ground to a temporary halt so am stepping up the ante and approaching Greenpeace and WWF Adena. If anyone has any other ideas I'd appreciate it.
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« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2007, 09:16 AM »
In my efforts to raise awareness of the plight of the San Glorio bears and, hopefully embarass Cristina Narbona (will it still be her??) and the EU into putting an end to this ridiculous situation, I've already had replies from "forestman" and the Wolves and Humans Foundation. The former has promised to "hacernos hueco" in http://www.espacioblog.com/forestman and http://elblogverde.com/. Watch those spaces! The latter http://www.wolvesandhumans.org/index.htm will publish an article I'm going to write (today, hopefully, before we get busy) in their next newsletter due in June.

Re. my ref. to "Quercus" in a previous post, I have the article as pdf. but can't read it. From what I can glean, the naturalists spent 2 years studying the valleys of Lechada and Naranco leading to undisputable proof re. the residence of bears. Very significant evidence.
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« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2007, 15:54 PM »
Have just got my grubby mitts on the Quercus May issue, not my ****  - the PDSG boletín got it wrong  ;D
Anyway, excellent article on the 3 year monitoring project. Various families and lone males were observed feeding on the abundant wild berries and nuts and marking territory. One of the latter (that they named Pablito) surprised motorists by crossing the N-621 in the middle of the afternoon "en pleno agosto". Not just once either, "varias veces".  :o
All adding up to undisputable proof of their habitual use of the San Glorio area.

And I can't believe this bit. The revised (because the area chosen for the ski resort project, ie the corridor between the 2 bear pop's wasn't classified as "área crí­tica") Plan for the Recuperation of the Cantabrian brown bear of Castilla y León has gone for approval to La Junta de Castilla y León. Yes, the very same people that are giving their backing to the promoters of the proposed destruction of said same habitat.
Have I got this right?  :-\
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« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2007, 16:22 PM »
Greetings Lisa,
'Fraid so, Lisa. You got it in one! These Junta guys are the bees knees!

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Ps.
How's the Ciudad del Medio Ambiente coming along? >:D

Pps.
You can bet your **** they've got your local Trib. Sup. in the bag also, just in case it occurs to someone to spend at least 5 years going through the lower courts on their way to Europe. While it's true that many younger judges are doing surprising things in this country, the ones up at the Trib. Sup. in each Aut. Com. are of the old school - simple matter of seniority. Lots of hunters among 'em as well, of course.
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« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2007, 23:45 PM »
San Glorio ski station threat to Cantabrian brown bears on forestman's blog and el blog verde today.

http://www.espacioblog.com/forestman/post/2007/05/25/la-batalla-san-glorio

http://elblogverde.com/la-estacion-de-esqui-de-san-glorio-amenaza-al-santuario-del-oso/

Other blogs are joining in, and a lovely pic.
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« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2007, 17:38 PM »
The article "what I wrote" has been published in the summer issue of the Wolves and Humans Foundation newsletter (tweaked and toned down a bit.) I can't attach it because it's too big so instead I'm attaching something else I'm thrilled about. Carlos Sanz has sent me lots of photos for my mammals page (seeing as the rules haven't been written yet  ;))

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