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Re: Wolves in Catalonia
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2009, 21:56 PM »
Hi Lisa,

That sounds like great news, apart from the fact that I can't find anything about it on any of the Catalan environment sites; either it's too soon to say or too good to be true. :'(

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« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2009, 23:03 PM »
Or completely made up or someone's let the wolf cat out of the bag too soon. I don't know if there's any news on the subspecies status of signatus, but it seems like a strange idea to me. More like uncoordinated and unjoined up thinking.
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« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2009, 00:06 AM »
Yes, large pinch of salt until we hear otherwise
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« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2009, 00:35 AM »
Greetings All,
Very confusing :noidea: even fishy, I'd say (Sp. anyone?)
Do any of our Catalan Fraction iberianatureforumers have any inside info re.
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el presidente de la asociación ecologista aranesa Avalon, Carlos Montero
who seems to be the source of the whole tinglao (En. anyone?).

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« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2009, 00:41 AM »
This is the nearest I've got so far (from October 2008):
La Generalitat y el Conselh Generau d'Aran acuerdan implantar un chip a todos los osos para evitar ataques

Ecologistas denuncian al Síndic y al Conselh Arán por intentar cazar a Hvala puesto que pertenece a una especie protegida
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Re: Wolves in Catalonia
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2009, 01:21 AM »
Hi Guys and Gals,

Now I'm getting really confused. An article in Avui refers to the meeting last week, but the subject appears to be entirely about the bears, plus the fact that AVALON?s blog doesn't have a metion of wolves in its recent news roll. :noidea:

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Re: Wolves in Catalonia
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2009, 10:43 AM »
So it seems the journalist got it wrong. He meant bears. Frankly, I don't think they need to reintroduce wolves. If allowed they'll get here of their own accord.
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Re: Wolves in Catalonia
« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2009, 07:26 AM »
That's right. Has there been any more news about the one that arrived from Italy a few years ago?

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Re: Wolves in Catalonia
« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2009, 18:31 PM »
Hi Simon, just to set the record straight on this one (I think you are referring to the the famous Cadi wolf)

It did not arrive from Italy but DNA tests have shown that it is genetically Italian in origin, forming part of an expansion over a number generations out from the Apennines. The Apennine population began to expand in several directions from the early 1990's. It moved north into the Italian and Swiss Alps; north-east into the French Alps and Lyon, and east towards the Pyrenees, reaching the Maritime Alps near Nice by 1996, Saboya by 1998. An individual was detected between Areja and French Cerdenya by August 1998 in the Madres Massif, just to the north of Canigó, and finally by 2004 into the Cadí range.

The Cadi wolf paired up with a female dog which was shot by wardens to prevent hybrids being born. As far as I know it is currently alone. There may be as many as four lone wolves, all male, in the Catalan Pyrenees which have made their way from French Cerdanya. However, there are grounds for some pessimism as the French population is under serious pressure from hunting and so individuals are only arriving in dribs and drabs.

Note: The last Catalan wolf was shot in Terra Alta in the south of the Principality in 1929 (1935?), though the animal is thought to have disappeared from the Sierra de Cadí more than 100 years ago.

http://www.iberianature.com/material/wolf.html#catalonia
http://www.iberianature.com/mammals/wolves/

And see also Avui article at start of this thread:

http://www.iberianatureforum.com/index.php?topic=455.0

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Re: Wolves in Catalonia
« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2009, 11:32 AM »
Thanks for this snippet Nick, the subtlety of the exodus went over my head!

Ta

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Re: Wolves in Catalonia
« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2009, 10:06 AM »
Hello,

My name is Joerg. I`m a wolf friend from Germany.

How many wolves gives in Catalonia in this time?

Is the wolf protection in Catalonia ?

Regrads  :sign:
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Re: Wolves in Catalonia
« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2009, 22:12 PM »
Hi Joerg, welcome  :sign:

Did you see Nick's previous post?

There may be as many as four lone wolves, all male, in the Catalan Pyrenees which have made their way from French Cerdanya. However, there are grounds for some pessimism as the French population is under serious pressure from hunting and so individuals are only arriving in dribs and drabs.

Note: The last Catalan wolf was shot in Terra Alta in the south of the Principality in 1929 (1935?), though the animal is thought to have disappeared from the Sierra de Cadí more than 100 years ago.

http://www.iberianature.com/material/wolf.html#catalonia
http://www.iberianature.com/mammals/wolves/

And see also Avui article at start of this thread:

http://www.iberianatureforum.com/index.php?topic=455.0



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Re: Wolves in Catalonia
« Reply #32 on: April 26, 2009, 11:23 AM »
Hi Joerg,

Welcome to the Forum.

There is a campaign to help save the wolf population here in Catalonia. Furthermore, it has details in German!

Looking forward to hearing more from you on this topic :sign: - most of us are British and envy the fauna of your homeland!

Regards

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Re: Wolves in Catalonia
« Reply #33 on: May 15, 2009, 15:22 PM »
@lisa  and @Simon

Many thanks for your informations.

Information over the German wolves can you find under:
http://www.wolfswelten.de/forum/index.php

and

http://lausitz-wolf.foren-city.de/

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Please help the wolves in France with your protest!
« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2009, 09:30 AM »
Hello,

I´m very unhappy over the dead from the French wolf.

Please send your protest over the wolf kill  an the French Ministry of Environmental Protection.

Link:  http://www.loup.org/spip/La-louve-abattue-portait-des,977.html

You must confirm the entry in die list over the e-mail -link.

Please help the wolves in France with your protest!

Many thanks.

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Re: Wolves in Catalonia
« Reply #35 on: April 09, 2010, 21:27 PM »
Some recent news about Catalan wolves in El Punt, including a photo, shot in the Parc Natural del Cadí-Moixeró.  11 have been seen there since 2003, including one female.

The director of the park wants to follow the example of the Sierra de Culebra and use the wolf as a way of attracting tourists, and there's talk of re-introductions.  The livestock owners have misgivings.

The area has a large population of chamois and deer though, as alternative prey.

http://www.elpunt.cat/noticia/article/1-territori/11-mediambient/154297-lalt-bergueda-veu-en-el-llop-un-atractiu-per-a-un-turisme-de-lnatura-i-paisatger.html



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Re: Wolves in Catalonia
« Reply #36 on: April 10, 2011, 17:17 PM »
Latest wolf numbers for Catalonia:

http://www.iberianature.com/spainblog/2011/04/wolves-expaning-in-catalonia/

Slowly...but they're coming.
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Re: Wolves in Catalonia
« Reply #37 on: April 11, 2011, 11:12 AM »
Boars of Collserola, watch out!