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Title: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on November 24, 2007, 16:56 PM
Hi all, :)

Finally we have some rain here in the Sierra de Grazalema... It has turned chilly too with temps down to 6 degrees celsius at night times... We need a good month of this rain though... Nice pitter patter stuff. Not that stupid 300 litres per metre in 10 minutes and golf ball sized hail!...

So I am after weather reports please? Is the powder snow in the Picos the best ever? Leon has an ice rink? ,Extremaduran ice or almerian sleet...

what's the weather doing...

A future project of mine is to supply people with internet connected weather stations that update every 10 minutes with graphs and interesting stuff...

Clive
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: SueMac on November 24, 2007, 17:56 PM
Hi Clive

Its 'orrible 11 degrees out of the wind and the Cabeza de Jara is under cloud with spit rain. Lucie the Westie just sat down and said in doggie 'If you think I'm going walking in this you must be joking' . So no olive picking but a posting up on my blog and stew for supper.
SueMac
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lisa on November 24, 2007, 21:27 PM
It's peeing in the Picos. Well, down here at 300m anyway. Nice, steady rain, nothing too heavy. Higher up we're having our first real dump of snow after a couple of smatterings and the snow is down to @1,300m.
Had some heavy frosts last week so 'shrooms all gone and lemon tree in it's winter quarters.
Beef stew.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on November 24, 2007, 22:38 PM
Beautiful sunshine in the Els Ports (Catalonia) today and the temperature gauge on the local chemist's read 16 at mid-day, but there has been a chilly wind blowing all day in the mountains, and it gets very cold at night.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on November 24, 2007, 22:48 PM
So.. Tony... Time to put the flip flops away till spring and put some clothes on??? :)

Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on November 25, 2007, 10:51 AM
Greetings Caesar and other Mollymawkers,

Re. your
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blowing a gale
coming from you I would imagine it's literal
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John Badcock, in Domestic Amusements, 1823 (referring to a sea voyage):

    "The severity of the climate having compelled them to batten down and caulk their abiding place."
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/56700.html

Not much advice forthcoming from Madrid landlubbers - bright blue skies but zero-ish temps.at night (mildly irritated as I can't head off to mountains 'cos chauffering kids around to various weekend birthday parties) - as to how to cope with such circs., but I would imagine slightly better off where you are than out at sea ...

Good luck!
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: SueMac on November 25, 2007, 11:44 AM
Hi all - where do I find a definition of a full shroomie? Congrats anyway Clive Sue Mac
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: spanishfreelander on November 25, 2007, 13:18 PM
Hi Clive & Sue
Up here in "Badajoz Land"..its been very,very cold at nights..down to freezing with ice on the car windscreen 2 days running.
Daytime temps have struggled to get past 8 degrees,but dry after all the heavy rain we had earlier in the week.
Today the suns out and nice and warm in it,but the windchill factor then comes into play.
Had to buy heather a thermal neck warmer yesterday..but these women are soft,aint they? (waits for head to be bitten off)...lol
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on November 25, 2007, 16:28 PM
Hi Everyone
Here in Leon, after a little rain earlier in the week, we are now very sunny, very cold, with a good dusting of snow above 1000 metres, it looks very pretty. As with Dave in Badajoz, there is a significant breeze, which goes right through, my tweed cap and Wax jacket (muy ingles) is definitely de riguer( Spanish anyone ?) at the moment.
Regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on November 25, 2007, 23:09 PM
Yes Clive - the togs are now back on.
Last swim in the sea 'au naturel' - 2 weeks ago.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: spanishfreelander on November 26, 2007, 07:39 AM
Hi Tony,
Heather swam in the sea last Jan 6th "Au Natural"...though i cant see her doing it in Lake serena at this time of year.
Roll on the summer..lol
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on November 26, 2007, 10:07 AM
Rain is avoiding Catalunya this year.  The cold snap of the previous week seems to have triggered some nice autumn colours in Barcelona though.  Last autumn was so mild that many trees were reluctant to turn and leaves were still green at Christmas time.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: SueMac on November 26, 2007, 14:47 PM
Hi just noticed  today that there is a powdering of snow on the Sierra Maria above Los Velez - probably about 1500 meters- this is early.
SueMac
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Jill on November 26, 2007, 21:43 PM
All this talk of SNOW and FROST is very alarming!
Caesar exaggerates the cold, I think - he's a bit over-sensitive to cold, having been born somewhere nice and hot - but he doesn't exaggerate the strength of the wind.
(The cat went ashore, as is his wont, of an evening, and evidently couldn't get back aboard; the wind was holding the boat four feet out from the jetty. The girls and I went to look for him, the next day. We wandered around in the cold wind calling, "Trrrrrruco!", and he finally popped his head out of a drain. He was cold, wet, hungry, and very scared. And he hasn't dared to go out of the cabin since!)

The gale notwithstanding, we have not yet needed to put away our flip-flops - but we have had to change from shorts to jeans, and we have had to dig out the jumpers.
We were supposed to have gone south (to the Tropics) before this unpleasant business occurred again.

Lisa, I'd been thinking how nice it would be to visit the Picos before we left. I've never managed to drag the team that far west.... But mention of SNOW has put me right off that idea!!!
This having been said (and some of it with tongue in cheek), last January we were wearing T-shirts and picnicing al fresco in the Pyrenees. And I am confident that within a week we will be wearing sun-tan lotion, and not much more, in La Manga, once again. That's one of the beauties of Spain: variety.

Jill

Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on November 27, 2007, 09:11 AM
Yep.  Just when we are due to fly to the LOG for a few nights the temperatures here in Tortosa are predicted to rise back up to 22 !!  Mind you it could all change by then.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on November 27, 2007, 10:30 AM
Hi All,

I guess it's all my fault, as usual. Here I am back inthe Pyrenees and it's boiling - 13 degrees yesterday on the terrace! Even here in Tremp - a notoriously frio sitio - it hasn't touched zero these last few days.

Cheers

Simon
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on November 27, 2007, 10:37 AM
Ah well, Grazalema has once again proved itself to be NOT the wettest place in Iberia.... Two days of pathetic drizzle has now been replaced by bright blue skies and sunshine....

Still its nice weather for walking in...

:)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lisa on November 27, 2007, 14:22 PM


Lisa, I'd been thinking how nice it would be to visit the Picos before we left. I've never managed to drag the team that far west....


Jill


When shall I reserve the mooring in San Vicente de la Barquera (http://www.sanvicentedelabarquera.org/) for? Please don't bring Truco though. Another animal would probably mean divorce  :(
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Jill on November 27, 2007, 18:29 PM
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Here I am back in the Pyrenees and it's boiling - 13 degrees yesterday on the terrace!

Are you being funny, Simon? 13 degrees is COLD! It doesn't often go that low in our little corner of the world - thank heavens galapagos. (Note that I'm not saying it never does; three years ago it actually went down to 0 degrees for a couple of nights. People mistook the frost on the jetties for snow. They'd never ever seen it before!) As I write, it's 18 degrees in the cabin and Caesar says he's freezing cold.

I guess climate is all a matter of mind. One man's boiling point is another lad's freezing point. Or perhaps its a matter of wardrobe and of fireside. If I had a wooly jumper and snow-boots, and if this boat were equipped with a roaring log fire, then I'd be delighted to let it snow, let it snow, let it snow.

Lisa, if San Vicente de la Barquera is where I think it is - just a little bit along from the Costa del Muerte, in the Bay of Biscay- - then I think we'll give it a miss this season. When sailors talk of the dangers of becoming embayed, it's Biscay that is looming large in our thoughts! (Smiley skull and cross-bones goes here.)

Jill
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on November 28, 2007, 12:01 PM
Hi everybody
An ear tingling cold in Leon today at 10:00 am, 0 Degs. , although the sun is shining from a cloudless sky, the pots are frozen and the deciduous trees and shrubs have all lost their leaves. The banks of the Bernesga are covered in white, like icing sugar. At night the stars are very bright, and the various constellations are easily visible, despite the light pollution from the city below. Mars is especially bright and very red. It is all very fresh and beautiful.
Regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Jill on November 28, 2007, 21:39 PM
Yikes!!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on November 28, 2007, 22:01 PM
Time to pack out the flip flops with silver paper Jill... Weather man says its getting cold over in your neck of the woods... :)

down to 3 degs by the weekend....

Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Jill on November 30, 2007, 19:51 PM
80 F (26 C) in the sunshine. Now that's what I call a sensible temperature. Mind you, it was only 60 (16 C) in the shade / in the cabin.
A glorious blue sky, which is normal, and scarcely a breath of wind - which is not.

(For more, see the birding board! Subject: Birds fishing in the marina.)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on December 02, 2007, 18:05 PM
I guess I spoke too soon, it's been lurking around + or - 2 degrees these last few days, so I'll upped sticks dow here to sunny Tarragona to attend to some 'work' :technodevil:, leaving the Missus cuddling up to the huskies - who are beginning to stire now that thier optimum operational temperatues, i.e from about -10 downwards, are beginnng to loom!

Furl the grunions to the marline spokes and down some grog for us landlubbers, Jill!

Simon
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: spanishfreelander on December 02, 2007, 18:24 PM
This time last year we were running around in tee shirts.now the cold weather is hitting us hard here.
Due to the fact that we have been here over a year and aclimatised ourselves,ie...maybe blood a little thinner now?
Peple told us that once we had been through a spanish summer,we would feel the winter weather,and its not really winter yet!!!!
Or maybe we are just getting too old...lol
Dave
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on December 02, 2007, 19:01 PM
Greetings All,
Never a dull moment on this 'ere great iberianatureforum:  :dancing:
Simon's 'stire' had me reaching for my trusty dictionary and working backwards through 'stook', 'stonk', 'stog', 'stob', 'stirk' and 'stipes' until I finally reached the conclusion (fairly obvious with hindsight, I know) that it was a blooper. He had me fooled there 'cos I was sure it was some technicality related to dogs and their winter coats. But it was not to be.
Which probably means that what Simon was reallly telling Jill with his
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Furl the grunions to the marline spokes and down some grog for us landlubbers
was something like "Curl the onions with the marmite spoons and put some more logs on the fire." whatever that might mean.

Regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: John C on December 02, 2007, 19:06 PM
On my patch today the rain was heavy and the wind gale force.  I nipped outside to the car and returned soaked.  Unfortunately for parched SW Andalucia my patch today was Dungeness (UK) where I was leading a birdwatching for beginners walk for the RSPB.  It certainly made me appreciate the climate in Cadiz province.  I'll be happy to send you some of the rain - I know you don't need the wind - when can you let me know how to do so?  

John  
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on December 02, 2007, 19:18 PM
PS.
Re. Jill's winter blue skies, Madrid is very proud of its blues skies (as seen in many of Goya's scenes - when he was feeling light-hearted) and must admit that they do make a difference in winter months, but they are a very light. almost pale, blue.

For real amazing-and-never-to-be-forgotten-blue skies, the ones that Dali depicts in many of his pics (which I always thought were a colour pigment of 'is imagination) are unique. Has anyone else been to Port Lligat? Don't know 'bout the winter months, as I've only ever been there late summer/early autumn, but magnificent.

Refraining-from-mentioning-other-latitudes-and-other-climes regs.,
Technopat

PPS. we had an edit issue there, John - my 'other latitudes' dig was not meant for you - s/he knows who it's for.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on December 02, 2007, 19:21 PM
Hi Every one
A Grunion is a small fish commonly known as silversides and also whitebait
Furl is to roll or wrap a sail around the mast or spar to which it is attached
MARLING-SPIKE. A tapered iron pin, fixed in a short wooden handle, bent towards the point. It is used to open the strands of a rope for splicing, and to strain tight the seizing of clues, &c. therefore marline spokes is the plural.
Downing grog for us landlubbers has something to do with drinking

So I assume he is doing something unpleasant to a small fish, while under the influence
I really must get out more
Regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on December 02, 2007, 19:23 PM
Maybe you could email it John?...

I'll increase the attachment allowance so as to take into account torrential rain and general squalls...

:)

Blue skies here again and the wettest place in Spain is?

Tp Those opaque skies up in Dali land what all the artists rave about just seem to hurt my eyes and force the wearing of sun glasses... Down here In Grazalema with all the greenery the light seems to be less harsh?

haha Dave... another drunken sailor?

Clive
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on December 02, 2007, 19:48 PM
Greetings Clive and All,
Your
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with all the greenery the light seems to be less harsh?
raises an interesting point - can't quite grasp it yet, but interesting nonetheless.

Not sure if I've mentioned it elsewhere, but re. rain in Spain, I have only been to Seville 5 or 6 times - always 'tween Nov and April and just passing through - and on each occasion the rain was so torrential that I couldn't see farther than 10 metres. Spaniards - apart from the locals - don't believe me. I have yet to see the place in clear daylight.

Regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on December 02, 2007, 23:03 PM
Hate to tell you guys, but I cannot remember the last wet day in the Els Ports - probably early November.  Blue skies and beautifully warm days, apart at times from the blasted wind and the chilly nights.

Yeah, one does get aclimatised and start feeling the cold just like the natives do, even though back home such temperatures would be considered warm.

 :santa_smiley:
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Jill on December 02, 2007, 23:44 PM
I was in Port Lligat in December a few years back and, yes, the sky was a magnificent blue.
Mind you, it is here too. Maybe it's the proximity of the sea? Inland, and especially over the city, the air is bound to be filled with dust (and worse things).

Visibility to seaward has been unusually good lately, with the coast to the north visible for many miles. Very, very occasionally it is so clear that we can see Cabo de la Nao, beyond Alicante. That's probably almost 100 miles.

Is there anyway of attaching a map, or a series of maps, to the forum so that we can see where everybody is / see where it's raining? It might also be useful when people are writing about specific parks and other places.

Jill

P.S. Send me those grunions and onions, Simon, and i'll get at 'em with me marlin spike, and pickle 'em in grog, and furl 'em in tin foil - and you can eat 'em at the Summit.
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on December 03, 2007, 11:51 AM
Greetings Jill and All,
Let it not be said that Technopat likes to quibble for the sake of quibbling :technodevil: , but Re. your
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That's probably almost 100 miles.
, I was more than intrigued as I have always been fascinated by this concept of horizon, but never remember to check it out, as it would necessarily involve rudimentary knowledge of geometry, at the very least. So off I went to wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizon)
, just to get an inkling of what we'd be discussing here and came across what I had more or less gathered and taken for granted all these years, i.e. if you sent one of the crew up to the top of the main-mast (100m), your horizon would extend to some 36-41 km (not miles), which could be further extended some 20% by the virtual radius. Not that Technopat is quoting wikipedia as gospel, I hasten to add. I'd much rather take your word for it, Jill. And if Caesar seconded it, all the better.

Not-quibblin'-for-once-just-genuine-interest-in-learning regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on December 03, 2007, 12:20 PM
Very sunny on the coast, but the interior of north Catalunya is quite misty these days.  Couldn't see any of it yesterday from Collserola.  The clearest days here are in the winter, when mountains inland like Montserrat and Montseny seem to loom on the city's doorstep and you can even see the Pyrenees. In the summer they retreat, or just disappear, like yesterday. 
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on December 03, 2007, 16:17 PM
Hi Everybody
A map showing our location might be possible in Google Earth, i will look into it and report back.
Regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on December 03, 2007, 17:02 PM
Hi Everybody
Something like this
no addresses though as we have already had problems with spammers
Regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Technopat on December 03, 2007, 18:33 PM
Greetings All,
Tried to download a Google map image of my other abode at Buckingham Palace to post here, but my whatchamallit crashed. Some sort of built-in security software or remarkable coincidence?
Paranoidregs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on December 03, 2007, 18:39 PM
Hi TP and everyone
Just because you´re paranoid, doesn´t mean they are not out to get you (who said this)  :santa_undecided:
regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: John C on December 03, 2007, 19:42 PM
Maybe you could email it John?...

I'll increase the attachment allowance so as to take into account torrential rain and general squalls...

:)    Clive

Thanks for increasing attachment allowance - I'd try to email some to you, but fear I might come over as a little drip if I did!

John
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: glennie on December 03, 2007, 20:32 PM
Well, it ain't raining much. That's for sure.

Hope it snows a lot.

That way we'll get a big 'deshielo' and all the rich can fill up their swimming pools with a clear conscience.

(That will just leave them with the Volkswagen Tuareg to wrestle with. They're forming clubs to work out the defence for that little baby - with Rajoy's uncle as honorary president of course.)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Sue on December 03, 2007, 21:07 PM
some proof of moisture in the air today..
not in the sierras, but in the lowlands near Jerez as we were out investigating the Laguna Medina.. (John C country)

no, it did not rain but there was fog until midday!!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lisa on December 03, 2007, 22:19 PM
In the summer they retreat, or just disappear, like yesterday. 

I like that Lucy  :santa_afro:
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: spanishfreelander on December 04, 2007, 16:25 PM
Hi all,
Little bit Foggy in Herrea this morning..lol
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on December 04, 2007, 18:00 PM
Thrice the gumbril futtocks to the head shrouds!

Avast me hearties; ‘twas brilliferous morn’ and serendipticious grundulies trunc’d t’ogreferous canunjemaphims abaft the l’rd beam.

Ol’ blind Pew, t’was ‘ee as spoke t’us all on this ‘ere barkee, “Doomed, all ‘s doomed!” sez ‘ee. I ‘spoze it be troo . . .

But ever onwards! I was in North Norfolk the other week – not exactly Constable country I know but he would have been there had he known about it! I think it’s all to do with the reflection on the blue sea (and I know you’ll have something to say about that, Jill!) A little known fact is that Constable also painted at Brighton, another place notorious for blue skies - amongst other things!

It’s curious that you should mention Dali and Goya in the same post, Techno, as I find both of their skies flat and winter-ish. But I have a problem with Dali – I hate him! – and also note that the Goya ‘landscapes’ in the Prado are in fact studies for tapestry designs – next time you head south visit the Vianna palace in Cordoba and see the real thing, the effect is subtly, but strikingly different!

Meanwhile, if we want a fix of summer light effects, check out the ‘beach’ paintings of Joaquin Sorolla – Bliss on a Brush!

Regs

Simon

PS ‘Stire’ was indeed a blooper – but let’s have a definition now we have the word!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Jill on December 04, 2007, 20:32 PM
Maths is a dark art, so far as I'm concerned T-Pat. Caesar, on the other hand, is pretty hot stuff - aiming to take A-Levels in Maths, Further maths and Physics - so i'll see what he has to say on the matter.

In the meantime, I offer these items for your consideration:

Distance of the horizon from the eye of an observer standing on our deck is about 4 miles... ish. (Ships inevitably appear from the top downwards, and sometimes all we ever see of a ship is its bridge sliding along above the horizon. It's rather fun, to actually be able to see the curvature so clearly demonstrated. I always think that "the edge" looks surprisingly near.)

Cabo de Nao is quite tall. The light seems to be 120 metres above sea level. Whether this means that it would be visible from 100 miles away I don't know (see above...). I do know ('cos I've seen it) that El Teide is easily visible above the horizon from 80 miles. But since El Teide is 12,000 ft (3,700m) this information is not of much relevance.

Suffice it to say that you have now sowed seeds of DOUBT in my mind. Next time the vis is sharp I will have a look at that distant grey cliff over the rim of my compass. I can't actually think of any cliffs between here and Alicante.... which is why I assumed that it was the Nao. There are cliffs between Alicante and Altea and places north of there, as I'm sure you know, but they are not major headlands as such. What I am seeing is distinct. The view doesn't fade away, it ends in a headland.

If you have the energy to work through the maths I'd be very interested in hearing the result, T-Pat. (Or anybody else, of course.) Caesar is trying to do something complicated to our website, so I daren't interrupt, at the moment, with this trivial pursuit...

Simon, Dali was a GENIUS ! And a genius with a wicked and wacky sense of humour. (His cottage at Lligat is a very ordinary affair - except that it has eggs perched on the roof.)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on December 04, 2007, 23:56 PM
Hi Jill, Caesar and all,

Could it be the Sierra de Aitana you are seeing.. The peak is around 1500 metres... That whole sierra runs east to west and drops down into the sea north of Altea...

Looks like a nice place for hiking actually....

Off you go then... You can just hoist the wotsits... Float up to punto bombarda, tie up to the lighthouse and hitch a lift to the mountains....

Take photos from the top showing your empty anchoring bit down at la manga and start a new topic in the trip reports board...

:)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on December 05, 2007, 06:02 AM
Hi Jill,

Good to know that someone else out there finds math a 'dark art'!

I'm not saying that Dalis wasn't a genius, it's just that my subjective reaction is that I hate him! I'm not really sure why but I find him and his work superficial and infantile, in contrast to most of the other surrealists such as Man Ray, Magritte, Miró.

I'd be happy to be convinced otherwise so fire away!

Simon
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on December 05, 2007, 15:55 PM
Greetings All,
For a weather-related thread, there sure is a wide range of topics being brought up here!
Will surely forget to reply to the ones I most want to broach, but in the meantime:
Re. Glennie's
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They're forming clubs to work out the defence for that little baby - with Rajoy's uncle as honorary president of course.
, the latest I heard (this Monday) was that the guy himself was furious about the whole thing and basically letting it be known right, left and centre that Rajoy was simply lying and that they had never had any conversation regarding climate change ... rumours and counter-rumours - obviously the guy has a reputation to maintain in the field of science, whereas politicians just bounce from lie to lie * and aren't particularily worried if they get caught out occasionally - in any other profession it would be considered an occupational hazard.

*this is Technopat's personal opinion and is not to be interpreted as the official iberianatureforum line.

Re. Simon's
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It’s curious that you should mention Dali and Goya in the same post, Techno, as I find both of their skies flat and winter-ish. But I have a problem with Dali – I hate him! – and also note that the Goya ‘landscapes’ in the Prado are in fact studies for tapestry designs – next time you head south visit the Vianna palace in Cordoba and see the real thing, the effect is subtly, but strikingly different!

Meanwhile, if we want a fix of summer light effects, check out the ‘beach’ paintings of Joaquin Sorolla – Bliss on a Brush!

as usual there's too much in there to deal with in one sitting, but I agree that the Madrid skies are flat and winter-ish - even in summer. Not sure I agree 'bout the Dali skies, though. I had taken for granted that he'd just used any exaggerated colour willy-nilly until I saw that same colour at P. Lligat.
Re. your "I hate him!", I wouldn't go so far as to waste that much energy on him (I save that for my desprecio (En. anyone?) of politicians and journalists and captains of industry and ...), but the issue of separating the person from the artist is a never-ending dilemma ... Nor would I go as far as to call him a genius, Jill. The fact that he produced some amazing works of art doesn't confer on him "genius status" - it was his job, after all, and faltaría más (En. anyone?).
As for Sorolla, I can never work up that amount of passion - "Bliss on the Brush" - for his work. That said, I admire many, if not most, artists for their ability to plasmar (En. anyone?) stuff. Technopat would not wish for it to be thought that he is a total Philistine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philistinism), as well as lacking in knowledge of insects, birds, orchids, etc.

Right, now that I've more or less got that lot off me chest, I can take a deep breath and dive into the "grunty" (word from my youth which still doesn't appear in my dictionary). Or, if you prefer, Tea break over, back on yer 'eads!

Re. Jill's (assuming it was Jill and not someone else logged in under her name)
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Suffice it to say that you have now sowed seeds of DOUBT in my mind.
, that's the nicest thing anyone's said to me all day! Let it not be said that Technopat rests on 'is laurels :technodevil: (Sp. anyone?). Could it be that what you and Caesar are seeing at whatever distance, is a fata morgana or a mirage? Is there any way of telling, other than moving towards it? Mirages can, apparently, be photographed (have asked numerous "experts" 'bout this and opinion has been divided), so they are not mere optical illusions.

I'm-outta-here-before-I-get-started-on-yet-another-topic regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Jill on December 05, 2007, 23:13 PM
Love it!!! One of Dali's mirages, of course. In which case it must be Llligat we're seeing.

I have seen some amazing mirages - I've seen ships floating in the sky, and I've seen waterfalls on the horizon; I've even seen the sun set twice - but not in this part of the world. (Interesting point, though, because the ships and the second sunset were both things which were, in fact, OVER the horizon... so our cliffs could, conceivably, be over the horizon. But I don't think that they are.)

Vis today was very good, but not good enough to see said cliffs, so we'll just have to wait.
I'll leave it to Caesar to fiddle about and see what the Sierra de Aitana bears from here.

Jill (realio-trulio)

P.S. Some of the best things about Dali were his ridiculous moustache, his portrait of Gala (which you can only view down a telescope, and which turns out to be a dollar bill), and the things that he said: eg. "The only difference between me and the surrealists is that I am a surrealist."
Some of his paintings were pretty good too.
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on December 06, 2007, 01:35 AM
Greetings All,
While we're surrealistically using this weather thread for talkin' arty-farty like, would just like to add for the record that I do have a soft spot for Dali, but no way do I consider him a genius, in much the same way that I have a soft spot for the Stones (when "Satisfaction" comes up on the car radio, down go the windows, up goes the volume and Technopat is transported back some 30 years in time :santa_cool:) - but there is no way they can be considered, singly or collectively, geniuses  :dancing:

da-da, da-da-da ...

Regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on December 06, 2007, 10:48 AM
Hi Everbody
Just to get this thread back on track, it is horrible here, thick fog since Monday, cold and drizzly, I have a resfriado and Maria shingles, am seriously thinking of starting my Migration, as soon as the fog lifts.
Regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on December 06, 2007, 10:52 AM
Clear blue skies down in the "wet corner" of Spain hahahaha

:)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on December 06, 2007, 20:38 PM
What ever you may think about the weather in your part of the Iberian peninsular it cannot be worse than the LOG.  Have just travelled back today from Folkestone to Luton Airport and it could not have been worse. - torrential rain and roadworks all the way. Nearly an hour over schedule getting to the airport.  Give me good old Spain any day.  Why do we see very little roadworks here but back in the LOG it must be 'Dig up Britain Week'. Oh how great it is to be back here, and we have to return again in just over 2 weeks (eeks) to Liverpool to spend Christmas with the family.
Incidentally TP, what is 'raining cats and dogs' in Spanish ?
Tony
 :speechless:
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Jill on December 07, 2007, 18:51 PM
Caesar says the equivalent expression is "esta lloviendo a mares", or "...cantaros" (ie. it's raining seas, or jugs/jugfuls). Not as expressive as the English version... and not so weirdly inexplicable.

Weather report from La Manga:
Still sunny here this morning, with high pressure and a very low sea level (the lowest we have ever seen here), but this afternoon we had a little bit of wind and the clouds have now rolled in. We've been expecting them , because the day before yesterday we had a bit of high cirrus (mares tails), and yesterday we had some rather lower, more dense wisps (altocumulus, but not as dense as a mackerel sky).
Fabulous stormy red sunset, with lenticular clouds in the distance (flung up by the mountains). It's looking all set to rain a wee bit, and blow quite a lot, sometime tomorrow.
And if not tomorrow then Sunday. It usually rains here on a Sunday, 'cos Sunday is market day. :santa_smiley:

It will be interesting to trace the progress of this cold front, across the IberiaNature domain. Those of you with TV and newspapers will know where the low is lying and where it is travelling... but this is my guess: -
Since Dave has fog and rain in Leon it would seem that the low is probably sitting over the infamous Bay (of Biscay).
And to judge by the look of that sky (aforementioned) to westward, I would guess that Clive and Sue have not had quite such a nice day today. There is probably a westerly wind revving its engines in the Straits, and working itself into a full gale fury. Those Tarifa windmills will be doing their stuff tomorrow, and it will be impossible for any yachts to beat out against the wind into the Atlantic.
Do those winds reach you in Grazalema, I wonder?
And does it blow a hooley inland, near Lorca, SueMac, or does the gale keep to the coast?

Presumably it is also raining in the Picos, Lisa?
I would guess that you chaps up there in Barcelona you will be less affected by this than by the Mistral - or will you get a south-westerly wind rushing along and over the Pyrenees?
As for Madrid - I wouldn't have a clue how this will affect you...

Keep posting the weather reports, please. As Tony says, whatever it's doing here it will be doing it worse over the motherland.

Jill
P.S. Dave, I hope your wife has taken the magic modern cure: some kind of anti-viral pill, whose name I forget, which has to be taken within the first three days. If not, those shingles will come back to haunt her in the future.  :santa_sad: Que os mejorais pronto!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on December 07, 2007, 19:28 PM
It always rains within 5 days after mares tails and always within 3 days after a mackerel sky... ! :)

Another blue sky here today with no wind at all....

We wake up every morning and scuttle to the door in the hope of seeing clouds and hearing the pitter patter of cats and dogs falling from the sky....

Alas tis still dry here in the wet part of Spain

:)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on December 07, 2007, 20:57 PM
The glass slats in the bathroom were rattling today, as they do when the Mistral blows.  But it wasn’t very strong here –Simon probably felt it more if he’s still in Tarragona.  The sky became covered with high grey clouds, the sort that promise no rain whatsoever.  The afternoon was dark, except right at the end when the sky suddenly caught fire.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on December 07, 2007, 21:11 PM
High cloud all day here in Tortosa, but heavy low ones around the tops of the Els Ports which does not normally bode good, and indeed we have very strong winds from the North West tonight which sound as if they are trying to rip the roof off.  Batten down the hatches !!
 :santa_sad:
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on December 07, 2007, 21:32 PM
Hi Tony,  It was announced that despite it being December there's a high risk of forest fire down your way, because of the wind and the bone dry forests. 
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Jill on December 07, 2007, 23:19 PM
Still and sunny in Grazalema. A northerly in Barcelona, and a south-westerly down here... Hmmm. It rather gives the lie to my weather guess!

I searched around and came up with this. I hope it uploads properly.

(Just in case it doesn't: there is a low over Oslo, and another out in the Atlantic - NOT in the Bay - at the latitude of Ireland. Looks like no wind at all in the Straits. And a mere suggestion of a possible bit of a Low in the gulf, to give the northerly in Barcelona.)

Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Jill on December 08, 2007, 14:40 PM
Quite windy during the night, from the south west. Then, this morning, the wind suddenly went into the north. Now it's gone altogether, and the only clouds are one flying saucer (lenticular) which has blown down from the north, and a few strands of high cirrus (mare's tails). All in all, a rather muddled weather system!

The BBC's pressure map for tomorrow for Western Europe is radically different from that of 12 hours ago. The low off Ireland is shown sitting slap-bang over the grey northern isle, and it seems clear that the weather there is going to be averagely yUKky. It looks as if it will be windy in the Bay too. Has the fog blown away from Leon yet, Dave?

If the map is right, then I suppose that you should see some cloud passing over Grazalema today, or during the night. I will be interested in knowing whether you do...

According to the weather chart there's another front coming along behind this one, and the message written in the sky by this high cirrus seems to confirm that idea.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: glennie on December 08, 2007, 15:52 PM
Lot of fog in Madrid city last night - and it brought all the pollution that normally floats up above down with it.

There was a disgusting smell of sulphure in the air and my chest got quite tight with whatever I was breathing in.

Seemed to have disappeared by this morning. I was expecting some kind of mention on the radio along the lines of 'Concentraciones de ... superan en un 50% niveles permitidos blah blah blah.'

Heard it all many times before of course. Ain't nobody gonna do anything about it. It's the Volkswagen Tuareg factor - living on the outskirts of Madrid gives you the right to drive one come what may. A thousand or so pensioners die each year because of air pollution and respiratory disease...but everyone has to die some day! And in any case a couple of thousand are never going to swing an election. But those Tuareg owners .... now there are lots of them.

Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on December 08, 2007, 17:52 PM
Had a lovely day in the garden, pruning the vines and raking up leaves from the walnuts to put around the orange trees as a mulch...

Blue skies clear and bright no sign of any clouds Jill....... It's a bit chilly though right now at 17.44 it's 12 degs C

Our local manantial where we collect the drinking water from is down to the lowest I have ever seen it... Takes ages to fill up the bottles now... If it doesn't rain soon it will stop flowing all together... I am looking at filters to get the water in the hole that doesn't exist that is hidden under the caravan drinkable... Anyone know where to get a 3 micron washable filter? :)

:)

Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on December 08, 2007, 22:10 PM
Well the winds in the Els Ports had died away by the time we arose from our slumbers, and today the sky was mainly clear.  It was warm enough to sit outside with friends at a party knocking back the vino tinto.  As for water, well it is still streaming down from the mountains into our holding tank and cisterna, feeding the 3 fountains and irrigating the garden before tumbling into the barranc.  It is said that our nearest village, Alfara de Carles is situated where it is because there was never a shortage of water.  It pours out of the mountainside at Els Fonts del Tosca from where it is piped to Els Reguers to be bottled by Tosca and distributed throughout Spain (look for it on your supermarket shelves).
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on December 09, 2007, 09:27 AM
Wild west wind here this morning, washing on the lines flapping frantically, howling in the bathroom.  Strangely warm.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on December 09, 2007, 10:30 AM
Very still here the same as yesterday but Jill's predicted clouds arrived during the night... It looks like rain but we'll wait and see...

:)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on December 09, 2007, 10:45 AM
Hi Everybody
Terrific Gale last night, the building seemed to be moving ever so slightly, woke up this morning to a beautiful clear blue sky, but still a little blustery.
Regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on December 09, 2007, 11:20 AM
Hi Everyone,

Lucy, you were dead right about the gales of Friday night - I'd been working in the study all day with the i-Tunes blaring away (no neigbours over the puente and no wind in the solar), only to discover that the city appeared to be blwing into the sea! We never notice the wind here inside the 15 metre high Roman walls - unless its a Mestral - then it howls through the Portal de Roser and runs amock through all the narrow streets brig dozens of plant-pot and persianas crashing down! It's actually raellty quite dangerous at times, especially as the street lighting has a habit of failing!

Enjoy the warmth while you can, Tony, it's be brass monkeys soon enough (over to your Spanish Techno!)

Glennie, do you want to borrow some of our smog? We've gor plenty to spare thanks to the Repsol refinery!

Howling again today but boiling hot in my leathers!

Simon
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: paulmatthews on December 09, 2007, 14:28 PM
Blue sky and 33 here in Turre, Almeria, had to come out of the sun, too hot!!! :dancing:
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on December 09, 2007, 17:17 PM
We Brits do like nattering about the weather don't we ?

Today in the Els Ports - just a slight breeze and after a cloudy start a brilliant blue sky and warm enough to barbie and eat outside.  Delightful.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Jill on December 09, 2007, 21:13 PM
Gloriously sunny today in La Manga. A very light wind. Perfect weather for spray-painting the motor-home... ('Anybody out there want to buy a slightly dog-eared UK-reg motor-home...?)

The visibility was excellent. Not the best we have ever seen, but good enough to enable us to take a bearing on that mysterious cape or mountain. It bears 032 degrees. Caesar checked on Google maps, and the line pin-points the mountain behind Altea. It can't be anything else, because there's nothing else between here and Altea - except sea.

That mountain is also very distinctive, and even at that distance we both felt that we recognised it.

I will leave Caesar to make a full report...

Jill

P.S. Hang on to your piso, Dave; judging by yesterday's cirrus I think that you might have more wind coming in a day or three - but perhaps you are too far away for obs made from here to be of any relevance. I look forward to finding out!

P.P.S. Did you really mean 3 microns, Clive, or 0.3? If the latter, you could try Katadyn : http://products.katadyn.com/brands-and-products/produkte/Filters_16.html (Swiss-made, but half the price if you import them back across the ocean, from the US)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on December 09, 2007, 23:18 PM
Jill,

Sorry, yes missed a 0 off..

But that site HAS to be the most annoying site I have ever seen..

So here I am
http://products.katadyn.com/brands-and-products/produkte/Endurance_Series_23/Katadyn_Pocket_22.html

I LIKE it... I WANT it and I WANT IT NOW!

Where is the blinking links to click to find out how much it costs and stuff like that.... Do they want my money or not.... I got me card I got me money but can I buy anything from this site?

aaarrggghhh!

:)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Jill on December 10, 2007, 00:24 AM
Crazy, hey! I entered prices in their search box, and it said, "There are no matches" ! I have seen their prices somewhere, but it must be on another site. Anyway, if you buy it from the manufacturer, Clive, it will be expensive.

When you've decided which one you want go to google.co.uk/products . They have all the cheapest prices.

Then all you have to do is decide whether to buy from the UK (or even from Spain, if there's a distributor here), or whether to get one sent back across the water from the US, for half the price - and live with the guilt of the carbon-footprint...
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on December 10, 2007, 09:53 AM
A calm radiant day after yesterday’s fury.  It was warm enough to go to the beach yesterday – the problem was the sand storm going on. Collserola was roaring - made me wonder if it was safe to be walking around there –some pines had splintered and crashed.  The wind was acting like a giant hair-drier, drying out every corner of the woods.  Boars will be disappointed to find their favourite mud baths have solidified.  Best thing was walking ankle deep through the leaves.  What is urgently needed now is a week of rain (unlikely though).

Catalans are into their weather too.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on December 10, 2007, 23:28 PM
Jill's predicted clouds came and went.. No rain...

Why do I have the feeling that the drought will break on the middle week of April here at the Grazalema summit!

:)
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on December 10, 2007, 23:41 PM
Greetings All,
Am open to [reasonable] suggestions as to just how deep Technopat will have to dig the trench 'round the tent. At least we'll be able to collect all the rainwater for all those mugs of tea we'll be drinking  :dancing:

Regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Jill on December 11, 2007, 22:32 PM
Yesterday - Woke to v light NW, and v high cirrus; the highest I have ever seen. Half an hour later, the wind had risen to f4, and there was a huge bank of cloud rushing towards us from the N. The bottom edge was so sharp that it looked almost as if it had been drawn with a ruler.
Within a further 30 mins it was blowing f6 and the whole bank of cloud had passed over us so that the sky was perfectly clear - a hard, v bright blue.
It blew all day - a very cold wind, of course, being a nor'wester - and then, this morning, it suddenly disappeared.

Short notice, soon passed
Long foretold, long last.

Unlike many weather rhymes, that one is nearly always accurate.

Today - No wind, and superb vis (albeit still not the best ever). Glorious colours, especially towards evening time when the sun painted everything with liquid gold. The horizon was  a clear, firm line and looked so near that one felt one could walk to it in ten minutes. Ship's bridges passing by beyond the rim of the world were as sharply distinct as the yachts passing just off the beach.

The mountain was easily visible - AND THERE IS ANOTHER  LITTLE LUMP TO THE RIGHT OF IT ! With the coast between the two below the horizon the lump looked like an island. One could make believe that it was Ibiza...

I s'pose that if the big mountain is the one behind Altea, the little lump surely must be Cabo de Nao...
And if that's impossible (due to the lowliness of said cape), what AM I seeing that bears exactly as the cape should....?

I keep forgetting to say: Caesar pointed out that besides being cleaner, the atmosphere at sea level is also thicker. If Madrid is at 4,000ft, or thereaboutsish, there is 4,000ft less of blue to look through, so it's bound to be paler. Stars are more easily visible from mountain tops for the same reason.

Jill
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on December 12, 2007, 00:02 AM
Greetings Jill 'n' All,
Thanx for weather update. Could there be smog over Cabo de Nao?

Regs.,
Technopat

PS.
Caesar's "Madrid at 4,000ft" crack sounds convincing, but there's a flaw in there somewhere - though am not high enough to see it. That said, as Glennie pointed out, Madrid's air is notoriously polluted, and the maximum limits requiring emergency measures to be taken have been criminally surpassed on numerous occasions without the council even informing those people most at risk (couple of years ago they said it was because they didn't want to cause unnecessary alarm among the population) - how I'd love to be a whimsical green-minded millionaire able to hire the OJ Simpson team to sue the b******s! Actually, I'd much rather just hire hitmen, but I suppose that wouldn't be very PC.

PPS.
Needless to say, visibility, as in horizons, is limited (in most places) in Madrid to the mandatory 6 metres, I think it is, that has to exist between the windows of the building in front and yours.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Spanish Footsteps on December 12, 2007, 00:05 AM

El Valle Rio Razon - Soria

Woke up this morning to a light blanket of powder snow, well more like grains of salt but still looked magical on the sierras around us.  Once the sun was high enough the snow soon disappeared and the temperature was pleasant.

Tonight they have predicted minus 5c. The dairy farmer next door ‘Camilo,’ tells me anything down to minus 8 is ok, it’s the minus 20’s we need to watch!

We have a Robin that does the rounds every morning at approx 915.  Windowsill, pear tree, wall, pot plant, bush, gate and off.  I am determined to get a pic tomorrow.


Alfredo
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on December 12, 2007, 00:09 AM
Greetings Alfredo,
Envidia sana (En. anyone?)
Regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on December 12, 2007, 09:13 AM
Yesterday blue skies with occasional cloud over the mountain, but a biting cold heavy wind.  This morning the sky is still blue but cloudfree at present and the wind has gone.  Some frost on the ground.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on December 12, 2007, 09:48 AM
Yesterday was so clear to the north that you could see all the way to the Pyrenees. That's about 180km.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on December 12, 2007, 10:02 AM
Blue skies still but there is one patch of high mackeral sky over to the East

We have had the first ground frosts for the last two days...

Jill, have you actually got one of these water filters? Just how good is it? Could you prefilter sea water and then filter it using the .2 micron filter and then drink it?

What about completely untreated water that you know has got parasites, cysts and bacteria in. Would you filter that and drink it with this thing? Maybe should start another topic on water treatment and filtering.

Clive
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Spanish Footsteps on December 12, 2007, 10:19 AM

Good morning all

Dont want to rub it in, but i will.  Luckily we dont have to purify our water.  Mountain clean straight from the fountain.

I think thats why the locals seem to live so long around here.  Last friday we went to a funeral of a man who was 107 yrs old.  Yes 107 years old.  Does anyone have any feedback regarding altitude living and Longevity?  Im sure its good for you?

No minus 5 temps last night!  Beautiful morning -crisp
Didnt get the Robin, I think he/she is playing games.

Alfredo
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on December 12, 2007, 12:07 PM
Hi Alfredo and everyone,
Leon is quite high up at 800 metres, when my suegro retired, he was told by his doctor to live in Leon as, at that altitude the air was much better for his condition, Emphysema (Ex Miner) he lived till he was 91 and only died because of an infection he caught in hospital, while undergoing tests. So perhaps there is something about altitude that is good for you.
Today at 10:00 am it was a nose numbing -2 degs. but very sunny, I think the coldest day so far this Winter/Autumn.
Dave K.
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on December 12, 2007, 13:20 PM
Greetings All,
Have been resisting joining in this ever-so-British obsession of "nattering about the weather" (and managed to rid myself of much culture-based lumber when I self-exiled meself oh-so-many-years ago), and have been relying on aportaciones (En. anyone?) from other Madrid-based iberianatureforumers. Many years ago I was fascinated by the discrepancies 'tween weather forecasts (and temp. past, present and future) on the various TV channels (although they all claimed to have the Sp. met. office as their source). Thought it was a simple matter of inadequate technology at source, but have noticed that even now, with the most amazing hi-falutin' graphics, etc. being used, the discrepancies are still more than statistically significant.

OK, so for anyone planning to visit Madrid today, as of 12 noon today (see date of post/posting) the skies are typically light blue and the temps. are nose-numbing. Subjectively, it's the coldest/crispest day of the year if we count the days without wind, 'cos the other day there was that typical biting wind that adds to the feeling of coldness, but the temps. were (objectively) higher.

Dave and Alfredo,
Madrid is at a similar height to León, but whatever benefits that might bring are offset by the excessive pollution - next time you enter Madrid by car, be sure to look out for that yellowish-grey cloud that hangs over us like a whatchamacallit.

So the bottom line has to be: is it a case of the right attitude or the right altitude being good for you?

Simon,
re. your
Quote
it's be brass monkeys soon enough (over to your Spanish Techno!)
¡Hace un frío que pela!

Regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on December 12, 2007, 17:25 PM
Quote
Dont want to rub it in, but i will.  Luckily we dont have to purify our water.  Mountain clean straight from the fountain.

Hi All,

Alfredo, we too have our drinking water straight from the mountain. We never buy bottled water.

The problem is that the fuentes are drying up because of 3 years of low rainfall, around 1000 litres per square metre instead of the famous 2000 litres per square metre which makes the Sierra de Grazalema really and truly the wettest place in Iberia... Or it did until the last few years...

The chorros in our fuente are down to one from a normal (3 years ago) gushing four and that remaining one is a pitiful dribble that will probably stop altogether in the next few weeks...

So I have water from another source that always bubbles out the ground and even now is running quite well. The trouble is it is poisoned by the ignorant neighbours who let their animals crap in it and also put their waste water in it from the houses... It is disgraceful, illegal and stupid but it still happens "como siempre"

I filter this water down to 5 microns and run it into a holding tank and add chlorine to it then we use it for our house water toilets and showers... So what I wanted to do was filter it down to .2 microns from that point which should make it drinkable... Going to start a new topic on this subject later...

Quote
Have been resisting joining in this ever-so-British obsession of "nattering about the weather"
Tecnopat, I started this topic not because I want to just chat about the weather but to ask for peoples observation as to what is happening in their areas. Certainly for us down here, unless the rain comes in monsoon type weather in February or March (it rarely rains here in December or January) we are going to be in trouble. The locals here are not prepared for this, They use the water like, well "como siempre" Of course they do Grazalema is the wettest place in Spain you know....... But I am trying to be prepared in looking for other ways to get my water supply for drinking but also irrigating our land which provides us with a lot of food...

2 of our nearest lakes are so low as to be almost empty and the one nearest to us is down to 50 percent. This lake took 6 years to fill after the dam was completed so by my logic it seems to me that it will take 3 years of "normal" rainfall to fill it back up to capacity... Or did it first fill up during 5 or 6 years of adverse wet years?

I always find it funny when people say. "oh yes, that area is going to suffer desertification in the future".. They seem to miss the obvious signs that shows them it is actually happening.... Is it global warming denial syndrome?.. Us humans do tend to suffer from denial of the most blatant occurrences...

Clive

ps Sunny and blue all day, working outside in t-shirts. Temps down to about 8 degrees C and we will probably get another mild ground frost tonight...

:)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Spanish Footsteps on December 12, 2007, 21:02 PM
Aha I see Clive

Do you think that the mass migration of people to the south have anything to do with it, or is it just the non existent rain?  Before I left Australia we had a three years drought, they blamed it on 'El nino' poor kid gets blamed for everything.  Apparently when there is floods one side of the world it goes dry the other etc.  Maybe we are going through a drought now and it will pass.  Having said that the fountains in El Valle are gushing, but then Soria has a population of approx 93,000, of which 40% live in its capital. The rural exodus of the 1960’s resulted in a loss in the subsequent years of around 42% of the population.  Currently Soria has 8.8 inhabitants per sq km compared with an average in Spain of 87.2 and 116 in Europe. This makes Soria one of the least populated areas of Europe. 

So there is no strain on the fountains and no 'Grifos' on them either.  If you have a long enough 'manguera' I would be happy enough to send some down, better do it quick though I think a frost is coming.

Just going quickly back to Longevity

I once read an interesting book called 'Survival in the 21st century' written around 1970, very ahead of its time (anyone read it?).  Anyway they had a theory that an altitude from 1000m up was very good for you.  1100m was the best.  In the local cemeteries the headstones have dates in the 1800’s and ages lived to around 80’s and 90’s, not bad for a 19th cent village.  There is a few 100's from the 20th Cent too.

Talking of water, maybe we should organise a trip to Zaragoza 2008 water expo?  May get some ideas there.

Alfredo  :santa_afro:

Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on December 17, 2007, 11:29 AM
Hi Everybody
Another very cold weekend in Leon, temperatures are struggling to reach 5 degs. the river is frozen over, I cannot recall seeing that before, or at least not continuously over a three day period, even the canoeists, who appear most days, seem to have given up. Having said that the sky is an amazing blue, virtually pollution free, except for an orange haze over the coal powered coal station at La Robla, some 20 miles away, it is very beautiful but Hace un frio de hostia, according to my Brother in Law, he said this once while watching a concert at the Cathedral, and was told by his sister (my wife) that he shouldn´t speak like that in Church.
Regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on December 18, 2007, 10:36 AM
Some very cold nights recently.  Yesterday was cloudy and drizzly.  Today woke up to the same, but the night time temepratures have eased slightly, and this morning there was snow on the mountains.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on December 18, 2007, 11:05 AM
Hi All,

It's warmed up here in Grazalema, 12C right now. Some heavy cloud cover over the puerto de las Palomas and Torreon mountains and rain has been forecast from today for three days.... Another wait and see...

Absolutely still as well with not even a sigh of wind...

Off to fetch water from the fuente today but have a feeling it will have stopped flowing by now... There is another source on the other side of the mountain but its a long way to drive for water... Defibanetly going to organise the new filter system for drinking water in the new year..

Clive
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Jill on December 18, 2007, 14:56 PM
So you still haven't had any rain in Grazalema?

We had a little bit a couple of days back, but it was brought to us on a northerly ; I suppose those probably miss you and slide on across the puddle to Africa.
It came very suddenly and unexpectedly. No cirrus. No front rolling in. Just a couple of might-give-us -a light-shower type clouds looming as it got dark. But by midnight it was blowing force five and pouring down.
It was still doing it, on and off, as morning came, and when I looked out of the hatch I found that the rain was actually a sort of mushy hail. Hail forms in thunder clouds, which explains the lack of an obvious frontal system.
A friend came running past shouting, "Casi nieve". He said, "Tomorrow the mountains (on the far side of the Mar Menor) will be white."
This was rather alarming, partly because living in a boat is not much fun when it gets as cold as that, but also because two members of the crew were on the road at that moment, heading towards Albion. The last thing they needed was snow on the road.
However, when I phoned I learnt that they had reached Barcelona without seeing so much as a drip, still less a snow-flake. Then I had a look at the thermometer and discovered that although the wind was "freezing cold" it was actually still 12 degrees C. So much for "local advice"!

By the middle of the afternoon it was clear and sunny, and it has been dry ever since. The wind has gone and we're back to living with the hatches open.

February is the worst (coldest, windiest, wettest) month in La Manga. We have simply got to be out of here before February...

Jill
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on December 18, 2007, 15:04 PM
Quote
February is the worst (coldest, windiest, wettest) month in La Manga. We have simply got to be out of here before February...

But Jill.... What about the Grazalema summit in April?.....

:)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Spanish Footsteps on December 19, 2007, 20:29 PM
Hola todos

Looks like it could be a white christmas!  We were very surprised to see this blanket of snow after opening the shutters yesterday morning.  Snowed most of the day, which would have been a great thing had our Calefacion not decided to go on strike. We had to bring the hot water bottles out of hibernation.  Managed to persuade the technician to come and fix it, so we are starting to defrost. 

alfredo
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Jill on December 19, 2007, 23:21 PM
iy-iy-iy!

Not the place for a flip-flop wearing family... but it's very beautiful. 'Makes me want to come along and build a snowman.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on December 20, 2007, 13:40 PM
Hi Everyone
We drove up to Torre del Bierzo yesterday to do a bit of tidying up, above 1800 metres we were greeted by lots of snow, though the motorway was clear, Torre itself was snow free, and so we were able to do a bit of work. The apples that had been left on the tree, were providing a feast for sparrows, Blue tits and Blackbirds, so we have left them in situ until pruning time in February. Worked up quite a sweat gardening, but made up for it with a meal at Astorga, before counting the Rooks nests, filling up our water containers, and looking for  a fire surround in the local Bricolage, you could  say a full day.
Regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on December 20, 2007, 21:13 PM
Well its really weird over here in Grazalema.

only 50 KM away the crossing to Morocco has been closed for two days due to 80-100KM winds across the Straits of Gibraltar and the bay of Cadiz. There is some snow on the Sierra de las Nieves 15 KM away. The Canarias have got it all, wind, rain and snow...

We have high cloud and no wind on this side of the mountain. It's a bit windy on the other side but nothing to speak of. The forecast rain has not arrived yet and worst of all our water supply has finally stopped flowing...

Its also 12 degrees C and the other day we drove up to 1100 metres from our house which is around 550 metres. There was virtually no change in the temperature at the two heights, both reading around 12 degrees C

Clive
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on December 21, 2007, 16:00 PM
Ok. Don't shout about it but..... :)

It just started to rain here.. Pitter patter useless stuff but it is dripping at least... Temperature has dropped as well so maybe we will have some snow by the morning....

OH! Whilst I typed this it stopped raining and now I can see the top of the mountain from my window and bits of blue sky..... :(

Clive
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on December 22, 2007, 18:31 PM
Well having just suffered three days of constant rain and drizzle in the Els Ports we drove to Reus Airport in the early hours of this morning with the sun starting to peek through the clouds.  Needless to say we have arrived in the LOG to yet more rain and drizzle.
Tony
 :santa_cry:
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on December 24, 2007, 18:21 PM
Whhhooooo :)

16 hours of rain!

Blue skies for Christmas day!

Clive
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on December 28, 2007, 20:34 PM
Finally....

Thanks to JohnC for posting the link to
http://161.111.161.171/Atlas/Index.html on murciamujer's wren topic......

You need to tick the box "factores ambientales" and then select "precipitacion anual"

And you will see that finally someone is saying that Grazalema is NOT "The wettest place in Spain"

hahahahahaha

It rained for a day or so and then blue skies prevailed again... Our drinking water source has stopped flowing but our house water source (un drinkable) is still providing the vecinos and us enough water for now...

Our next "traditional' wet time is February but until then it is normally chilly at night but dry and warm in the daytime...

Clive
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: murciamujer on December 29, 2007, 18:49 PM
Cold start - only 4º at 9am  :santa_shocked: but it soon warmed up !
Lovely clear blue skies all day and the 'sunny spot' in the garden managed to get to 24º - not the best place to keep the garden thermometer  :santa_wink:


Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Spanish Footsteps on January 15, 2008, 18:43 PM
Hola todos

The last few days have been grey and windy as predicted.  A couple of days ago I was driving to the next village, the fog was sitting just below the Sierra Carcana, at around 50 meters.  Gazing at the surrounding countryside I saw a large bird in the tree staring at me.  I slammed the brakes on (not a person in sight) and reversed the car, all this time the Golden Eagle was starring at me with a look of 'hello, hello, hello'.  Of course I had my mega slow camera with me which was torn out of its case and switched on as quickly as it would allow me to.  Of course it was gone before I could get the shot, im sure he winked at me before taking off.

Today the wind has picked up to around 40kmh, most of the snow has gone from the Sierra Carcana but still sitting pretty on the Sierra Cebollera.

Alfredo
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: SueMac on January 15, 2008, 19:13 PM
Hi all

We continue to have exceptional weather and another beautiful sunset tonight. The rock cistus are out and lots of other wild flowers.  There truly is a first wave of almond blossom here.  The strangest development despite no rain worth talking about (although our snow usually comes after the 20 January) is that there is water flowing in our rambla so somewhere up in the hills there must be a new spring "sprung".  Consequent to all this mother arrives in two weeks - she requests no strange animals........ she'll be lucky - apart from anything else we have acquired another abandoned pup thrown in to the yard of a  wood yard.
SueMac
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: spanishfreelander on January 15, 2008, 20:36 PM
Hi all,
Quite mild during the day,bit of sun,odd shower..but temps dipping a bit at nights here in Badajoz.
Enough for Ice on the Car windscreen at mornings.
Loads of Storks and Cranes in the Fields,got a good look at a Spanish Imperial Eagle on a Telegraph Line the other day,shame there wasnt anywhere to pull over and get a pic.
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Ian on January 16, 2008, 10:20 AM
Asturias - Ribadesella :  Terrific storms overnight, torrential rain, gale force winds, hailstones,...........the kittens do not like it.......one bit.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on January 16, 2008, 11:06 AM
Hi all, Sounds very rough up in Asturias Ian.. :)

Down here in Grazalema we had some rain last Sunday night and I finally have got around to buying a rainfall gauge.

So Sunday night we had 36.5 MM or 36.5 litres per square metre. Last night we had about 5 litres. It is not unusual in the "wettest part of Spain" for us to get 80 or even a 100 litres in one go.

Right now its drizzling but quite warm at 13 C but it is quite gusty and I think we will have a few more trees down before the night is out. Today's rain is good though. Steady and slow and soaking in to the ground nicely. Not that inundation stuff that washes all my carefully prepared topsoil into the river and down to the bottom of the lake! Still I wish I had taken a day last week to plant my sunflower field...

I find it fascinating reading peoples weather observations with the differences from Andalucia (East and West) up through Extremadura over to Catalonia and up to the Picos and Asturias.

I have just placed another gadget on my list of "future rewards and presents"... I want a weather station connected to my computer and uploading real time data to my websites. That is along with the bat detectors doing the same thing and the remote cameras around the gardens and fields. It would be cool to tie all the data together. like what temperature do the bats stop flying around the house and stuff like that... :)

Clive
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: potes on January 16, 2008, 12:36 PM
Hello Clive

Those figures are amazing I thought we knew all about rain up here in the Picos ( although my valley has an incredible micro climate which allows us to watch the rain clouds hit the mountains and then skirt around us ) , but I cant comprehend 100 litres per square meter. In fact when it stops raining I am going to see what 100 litres looks like ,don't worry I am fed by a natural spring .

We are fortunate here that the drainage and absorbsion rate is phenomenal even after the heaviest of snow and rain the ground recovers within the day 

Like you the top soil run off is infuriating I have been working on the garden for the past four days in the sunshine preparing for the spring ( stone/rock removal ) and my neighbour had just delivered a mountain of Abono  which has taken us about 3 days of seriously hard work to dig out with a pick axe from his barn. The accumulation of only a few months apparently even though it was rock hard and over a foot thick but after last nights heavy rain and snow its made the garden look a bit like Glastonbury 

What sort of impact will very heavy rain have on your sunflowers when they have grown. What will you be doing with the crop ?
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: ValL on January 16, 2008, 14:56 PM
hello from my sick chair all wrapped up  :'(

weather here 12 k west of Sevilla is very windy today, the toldos are rattling well, hope they stay attached !
but dry so fair amount of blue sky,
some grey clouds did scud by a wee while ago  :)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: SueMac on January 16, 2008, 18:52 PM
What a difference a day makes - Awful gale force winds here too until dark - there were blue sky and scudding clouds here too.  Done a lot of damage to the garden.  Winds picked up an inset  large heavy plate glass table top and tried to fly with it.  Almost impossible to stand up in it, Dogs hate it.
SueMac
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on January 16, 2008, 19:42 PM
Here in the Els Ports the forecast for today was rain all day long with storms pm.  So far the storms have not materialised although we had the rain this morning.  This afternoon has been mixed sun and showers.  Coolish.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on January 18, 2008, 22:27 PM
Heavy wind in these parts last night rattling the old roof so mcuh I thought it would come off.

But today - beautiful, temperatures upto 65F and for the first time this year I was able to get my kit off whilst walking up these beautiful mountain tracks.  Whey, hey the spring is showing signs of moving in.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Spanish Footsteps on January 25, 2008, 19:01 PM
Hola

Still sunny and windless.  Very much like summer.

Hopefully it will last a while longer.  Most of the snow that was on the Picos Urbion and Sierra Cebollera has started to melt, so the 'fuentes' are flowing nicely.
Most days we get to see Kites flying around the Valley, today though I saw two flying together and doing some amazing acrobatics, looked like they where courting. 

regards
alfredo
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: glennie on January 30, 2008, 22:00 PM
Shocking here in Madrid. No rain to speak of for ages. Little snow in the sierra, so there is little to hope for from the 'deshielo'. Heavy air pollution in the city. Not good at all.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on February 05, 2008, 13:30 PM
Hi everbody
A bit of excitement on Sunday the 3rd of February. We had finished lunch and Maria was sat in our lounge, which overlooks the terrace, I had retired to our general purpose room for a siesta, about 3;30 pm there was a terrific crash outside, which roused me. Maria had seen a large red object sail over the flats and our terrace, followed by a resounding crash. I looked over the balustrade and below us in our street was what looked like a large red garage door. A few minutes later, the doorbell rang and our nephew David, a police officer, entered. Looking out of the back window, two more pieces of the red object, were lying on the roof of the flats next door. On the roof behind us was a chimney lying on its side. Apparently a strong gust of wind had ripped off a section of the roof, of our block of flats, depositing part on the adjoining roof, while the rest had landed on the normally busy Paseo de Salamanca, as luck would have it no traffic had been affected, and even luckier no pedestrians were around. The pieces were estimated to have weighed around 50 Kg, and had caused some damage to a parked car. The report in the paper blamed poor workmanship which had allowed the wind to lift the roof sections, thankfully as I said, no one was injured, but it just shows the strength of wind that we sometimes have to endure living so high up. The Fire brigade arrived very promptly, they are only a few hundred metres away, and secured the chimney and other debris, and also removed the roof sections from the street below. Me I am about to purchase a tin helmet. Hopefully we will be able to recoup the repair costs from the builder who constructed the new roof only a few months ago. Last year a similar gust, ripped the roof of a kiosko in front of the San Marcos hotel, and that was made of cast iron.
Regards
Dave K
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on February 05, 2008, 17:57 PM
Coo, Dave! You don't 'alf live up there among the clouds!
Hold onto María when you go out for walkies - and keep yer 'eads down!
Regs.,
Technopat
PS.
Is it a red kite? is it a red-footed falcon? No! It's an effing great big red garage door!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Jill on February 07, 2008, 23:22 PM
It's really fascinating reading about al the different climatic zones in Iberia. The situation is so radically different from the mother land, where it merely gets colder as you go north. There, if it's raining and blowing a gale in the Midlands, then we know that 12 hours later we'll be getting the same medicine in the south. And vice versa.

Here... well, one would expect for climatic conditions in Asturias and Leon to be radically different from those in the south - the terrain is radically different, and you're sitting alongside a different sea, with its own very different weather system - but I was not aware that the weather across Andalucia was so varied. Obviously, if you live in the hills it will be colder and wetter - but there's more to it than that.

It isn't just that we, in the far east, get less cold, wind, and rain; we get a completely different weather altogether. When the wind is in the north we get the tail end of the mistrals which affect the folks in Catalonia, but, from what I've been reading here, that seems to be the only weather that we share with the rest of the country. Even SueMac, who is only an hour and a half away, gets completely different weather at times.

Here, in La Manga, Christmas was a gloriously sunny interlude in a fortnight of predominantly grey, but - for the most part - perfectly still weather. (Quite depressing weather, actually. The sort that gets on your nerves and puts people in a bad mood.)

But almost every day of January was wonderful. Blue skies; no wind, for the most part. British tourists walking around in shorts and eating ice cream. (Why does that embarrass me?) Come to think of it, I was wearing shorts and a sun-top on a couple of days. (But not eating ice cream.)
January is almost always superb in La Manga, although we usually get some strong mistrals in the latter half. No mistrals yet, this year.

February is usually grim - by our standards. Buckets of rain and howling gales. But no flying rooves, generally speaking. (Having watched them go up, and therefore had ample opportunity to study the construction of the tower block balconies, it wouldn't surprise me in the least of one or two of them came down again. In fact, the only thing that surprises me about Spanish apartment balconies is that they don't fall off as soon as somebody stands on them.)

Thus far, this February, we've had January weather. No need to fur-line the flip-flops, and not a drop of rain. (We last had a drop of rain about a week before Christmas.)

So... there you all are, saying, "Spring is coming", and we're still nervously awaiting winter's arrival !

Jill


Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: SueMac on February 08, 2008, 08:27 AM
Ditto all that Jill.   Drove my mother up through the higher hills and the almond is spectacularly  and breathtakingly out in full blossom  but the spring flowers are taking their time. 
However I was at vets (again!!) yesterday and came back to find mum with burned ankles ::) Still no rain.
SueMac
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on February 08, 2008, 09:08 AM
Gloriously beuatiful here in the Els Ports for the last week or so.  Weather in the mid 60s during the day, but still geting cool at nights although nowhere near as cold as January.  Beautiful blue skies and the almond blossom is also looking beautiful here.  The valley down from Alfara to our finca is always a spectacular picture when it is in flower.  At the best of times it is beautiful being a Michelin designated scenic route, but when the almonds are out - wow.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on February 08, 2008, 17:17 PM
Hi Everybody
I know what Jill means about Spanish balconies, we are luckily as ours is actually a roof terrace, i.e there is a whole building under it, so it is very solid with a brick wall about a metre high, surrounding it, topped by a guardrail, in fact despite being on the ninth floor, you get no feeling of height, which is lucky, because Maria suffers from vertigo, but works quite happily up in the sky.
The weather at the moment is very springlike, the daffodils are shooting on the terrace, and the roses are starting to shoot, so they will get a shock when we prune them in early March.
Regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on February 08, 2008, 20:37 PM
Not to spoil anyone's fun (Tony, I know you must be looking forward to getting the warm fresh air to all your bits and pieces :) ) but the Environment ministry are saying it's too dry and going to get drier...

Heres the English version in the Olive Press

http://www.theolivepress.es/2008/02/08/government-warns-of-worst-drought-in-more-than-a-decade/
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Sue on February 08, 2008, 21:22 PM
There was a little rain here in Grazalema last Sunday, just enough to water in some seeds that we have planted. With the present sunshine many seeds that we had previously sown are now showing through.
A selection of butterflies are on the wing and today we had to drive around a praying mantis sunbathing in the lane (the first of the year).

We could not fill up our drinking water at the smart, newish fuente, as it is dry, we used the old one, which so far is still running.

Here are a couple of images taken today of our local lake…
The first... a view across the shallow end of the lake
(Where Spanishfreelander used to fish before he moved up north)
the second... is the inlet
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Jill on February 09, 2008, 10:42 AM
What lake is that? Surely not the Zahara embalsa???
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on February 09, 2008, 11:29 AM
Jill, your wait might be over, according to weather guru Alfred Rodriguez Pico.  His words of wisdom in today's El Periodico:

"Nos atrevemos a decir, con todas las precauciones del mundo, que ya pueden preparar de nuevo el abrigo, la bufanda y los guantes para la semana que viene... y también el paraguas. Este fin de semana será crucial para confirmar una notable bajada de las temperaturas y la posible llegada de algunas lluvias con situación de levante, que irían a más a medida que vayan pasando los días. Crucemos los dedos."

If he's right about the levante situation, it might reach the Mollymawk but not sure about Grazalema. Desolate pictures Sue.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Maria on February 09, 2008, 16:40 PM
Whilst typing this our weather station is telling me its 19.9c here in sunny Lanjaron. Not good news for those of us who love the snow and run a winter mountaineering courses  >:( anyway anyone who is interested you can see weather records kept since May 2005 for Lanjaron at this link http://spanishhighs.co.uk/weather.html

We have had no rain for 23 days and then we only had 19mm and 18mm 10 days before that, so you could say its pretty dry in these parts.

Maria
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on February 09, 2008, 18:47 PM
Sue are you sure that that lake ? has a shallow end ?
Yes, Clive I have been able to enjoy the sun this last week, but unfortunately today there was a great deal of cloud and when the sun was blocked it was cold.  Unfortunately the forecast for Tortosa is rain from Monday evening on for the rest of the week  >:(
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Sue on February 09, 2008, 18:53 PM
Hi All,

Maria at least you will get the benefit of snow melt (even if it is manufactured snow)

Jill, yes it is the lake at Zahara de la Sierra

Tony, there is still water at the dam end of the lake..for now. It gets used for topping up the next lake in the chain which is for agricultural use and hydro power production...lets just hope they don't plant cotton again this year!!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Maria on February 09, 2008, 19:16 PM
If it dosnt rain soon the water will run out and the manufactured snow will be no more either!! Unfortunately we dont get the benefits of the snow melt as the Lanjaron water company take most of it!! Our acequia hasnt run since May last year!  :banghead:
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Jill on February 10, 2008, 21:10 PM
Are you telling me that this huge, beautiful blue lake (below) is all dried up !  :o

(Except by the dam.)

I can't believe it...!  :speechless:

How deep do you reckon it was in the middle when the "tide" was high?

I'm so amazed that it's almost worth getting in the car and driving for four hours, just to see it with my own eyes.

Can you walk across it?

(So g-b-smacked that I nearly phorgot to add the foto.)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Sue on February 10, 2008, 22:51 PM
Hi Jill,

The land must drop steeply towards the dam of Zahara lake as the water level there is still quite high. The following figures show it to be at 56.95% presently…

PANTANO - ZAHARA - EL GASTOR (05-02-2008)
Capacidad embalses:     223 hm3
Agua embalsada:  127 hm3 (56.95%)

As shown on the reservoirs of Spain site (http://www.embalses.net/pantano-463-zahara---el-gastor.html)

You certainly could not walk accross the middle, here the banks are very steep, whereas at the inlet the gradient is shallow

The first two pictures are just 40 days apart…
25th June 07
3rd August 07
third picture taken 5th Sept 07
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: glennie on February 11, 2008, 10:19 AM
And so the sunshine goes on and on. No warnings about water use yet in Madrid, but it won't be long.



(Deleted comments that are not directly related to what is happening weather wise in your area. Please try to stay on topic...wildside)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on February 11, 2008, 18:38 PM
Hi all,

Just a reminder that this topic is about recent weather observations from actual forum members. I have been on a "stay on topic" crusade for a while as some of you may have noticed... Please try to bear with me....

There are plenty of places on the boards to open up political arguments for and against whatever subject you can think up.

Clive with his admin hat on
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on February 11, 2008, 20:39 PM
Greetings All,
What with the pretty pics. of water levels from the south-east, I remember some postings on a thread from back in May last year:
http://www.iberianatureforum.com/index.php/topic,321.msg2288.html#msg2288

Now that iberianatureforum's Asturias-León contingent has grown so substantially, maybe someone could post a pic from the pantanos up in the north-west...

Cheers!
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Jill on February 12, 2008, 12:45 PM
It's raining! As forecast by Lucy.
For the last couple of days we've had a coldish northerly - a sort of a weak mistral - and now it's raining.

There's actually not much to be gained from rain falling on La Manga. On the contrary; most of it falls into the sea either side of us, and the rest falls mostly on the tarmac road. Then it sits there, sometimes for weeks, until it's all evaporated again.
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on February 12, 2008, 12:58 PM
Greetings All,
Jill's rain brought to mind the great Sp. expression llueve sobre mojado (En. anyone?)
glennie mentioned the blue skies - so characteristic of Madrid (if you discount the yellowish haze seen from a distance and which hangs over our 'eads like what's his name's sword ...), but the temperatures have dropped considerably - today and yesterday being the coldest days I remember here in the city so far this winter - and yours truly, thick-skinned though he is - has felt the chill.
Regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on February 17, 2008, 21:01 PM
Greetings All,
The very cold spell that has come upon us continues - and had been meaning to mention the almond blossom all over Madrid - but keep getting side-tracked ...

Regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on February 18, 2008, 07:50 AM
Greetings All,
Some 20mins. after posting the previous w. update, a heavy drizzle started to fall over Madrid and continued into the early hours - a drop in the ocean but maybe enough to confuse our flora friends into blossoming or blooming or whatever it is they do, and then getting hit by evil frosts, etc. Remember 10cms of snow in Madrid one May. Forgot to mention the mimosas. Centre of Madrid 6º C at 1 am.
Regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Technopat on February 20, 2008, 19:43 PM
Greetings All,
Update on rain: after a whole day with it p***ing* down yesterday, today's been dampish but with no sign of rain.
*that's pelting

Regs.,
Technopat

PS.
Clearish skies at 19.48 and amazing full moon - ready and waiting to be eclipsed!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Maria on February 21, 2008, 09:37 AM
We had one day of rain on Tuesday and got 7mm worth, then yesterday it was 18.7c in the shade!!!! Today looks set to go the same way too. So far this month we have had 9mm of rain. Where have the days of the mythical 25+mm gone?  :noidea:

Maria
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on February 21, 2008, 09:57 AM
Disappointing here too.  Despite the promising weather maps and all the clouds, we had the proverbial cuatro gotas mal contadas, and now the sun's reappeared.  I think Valencia got it all.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Technopat on February 21, 2008, 10:26 AM
Greetings Lucy,
That's the second reference to cuatro gotas in a couple of days - and I thought it was a typo for cuatro gatos (En. anyone?) first time round ...  :)

Clear blue skies and sunny in Madrid ...
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on February 23, 2008, 17:40 PM
It's been a mild but very hazy day today. The sea is blanketed by a low white mist that's invading the port, creeping between the cranes.  I wonder if the conditions are the same down La Manga way.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Sue on February 23, 2008, 20:09 PM
It’s gone cool again here 12º at 7.30pm and we have been getting rain showers. The asphodels plus the white and yellow narcissi in the fields are enjoying every drop.  :clapping:

The bedraggled Short-toed eagle we saw today may be wondering if he should have stayed in Africa for an extra week or two!

Over the last 6 weeks we have had 103mm rain at home (Sierra de Grazalema, western Andalucia.)

No snow on our peaks yet this winter.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Jill on February 23, 2008, 22:51 PM
No rain here in La Manga, other than that dribble which fell a week or so ago, but the weather has not been especially nice.
For the last couple of days we've had a rather cold nor'-nor'-easter. Nothing by the standards of previous Februarys, but enough to make me dig out my shoes and socks and even my jacket.

I'm told that it's forecast to be calm tomorrow - so perhaps you've got the high sitting over you, Lucy, and perhaps tomorrow it will be wandering south.

Does anybody know what's going on in the Straits?
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on February 23, 2008, 23:04 PM
The difference in rainfall between the Sierra Nevada and the Sierra de Grazalema is incredible... We have had over a 100mm over the last 6 weeks and Maria says they have had only 9mm in the last month...

Haven't been down to the straits Jill but I don't think it has been very windy, rainy or rough...
Title: Re: What's the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Technopat on February 23, 2008, 23:37 PM
Greetings Jill and All,
As you may know, the Ministerio of Medio Ambiente is in the process of face-lifting the Instituto Nacional de Meteorología and calling it the AEMet - Agencia Estatal de Meteorología, though everything on their web site still refers to the INM.

The warnings forecast for the Straits is
DIA 23 DE FEBRERO DE 2008 A LAS 20 U.T.C.
 
1.- AVISO A LAS 18 U.T.C. DEL DIA 23 DE FEBRERO DE 2008.
INTERVALOS DE TEMPORAL DE LEVANTE EN EL AREA DE TARIFA Y RACHAS DE
TEMPORAL DE LEVANTE EN LA ZONA ALGECIRAS-CEUTA.

More available here:
http://www.inm.es/web/infmet/avi/pr/conavi_c.php

So y'all zarpando day after tomorrow when it all amaina ...?
Regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on February 24, 2008, 11:39 AM
The last 2 days here in the Els Ports have been beautiful - real getting the kit off weather, but this morning woke to find the mountains covered in mist and a big drop in the temperature.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: SueMac on February 24, 2008, 12:16 PM
Lots of steady rain and cloud over everything here in Almeria!! Lovely jubbly.  SueMac
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Maria on February 24, 2008, 18:23 PM
Wohooooo  :dancing: We got 23mm of rain falling yesterday afternoon and evening, at long last a descent amount  :clapping:. Temp has got to 17c again today though so its all dry again now!!

Thats now a grand total of 69mm this year  :noidea:

Yes the difference in rainfall between the Sierra Nevada and Sierra de Grazalema is incredible  :o
Title: Re: What's the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Technopat on February 24, 2008, 20:08 PM
Greetings Maria,
I can understand you ski freaks having one-track minds, but surely your "descent amount" would refer to snow rather than to rain ... :angel:
Heavy-drizzle-in-Madrid-all-afternoon-which-often-means-snow-in-mountain-range-to-north regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on February 25, 2008, 14:00 PM
Lots of steady drizzle here in the Els Ports too, which is a bit of a nuisance as I am trying to instal a new biological fosa septica, which means trying to work on the side of a barranc which is whilst normally drying is flowing steadily.  :speechless:
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Maria on February 25, 2008, 14:06 PM
Yes Technopat you are correct I was mainly referring to the snow, rather than the rain but also glad of the rain as it saves us having to water the veg!!  :)

Sunny and warm again today!!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on February 25, 2008, 16:38 PM
Sorry All
slightly confused about this ´descent amount´  is this what skier need to get down a mountain, or do you mean decent amount which is what we all need  :booklook:
regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Maria on February 25, 2008, 18:20 PM
Yep its a bit of both, just a spelling mistake, re ski and rain all good and needed  :)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lisa on March 22, 2008, 15:51 PM
The good news - Finally, it's dumping snow in the Picos  :dancing: Relief all round in our house I can tell you. After big winds from the NW yesterday, woke up to snow at @800m. Heavy and steady rain all night here at our house (300m) and it's still precipitating. Shopping in Potes this morning, rain turned to big snowflakes, then sleet and now back to rain again. Hoping to see the tops tomorrow and Mike's going out with ski tourers so will find out how much snow there is then.
The bad news - two new leaks  >:(
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lisa on March 23, 2008, 08:29 AM
Sunday a.m. and it's still precipitating. Snow starting to settle at the house. Chains will be going on the van. Olivia not a little disturbed that this has not happened during school time.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Els Frares on March 23, 2008, 13:30 PM
Bright sunny but cold today. yesterday we got to 22ºC by 2pm but by 4 it was cloud covered and raining. We even had a little bit of snow on the summits  of the Sierra Serrella and Aitana overnight. Overall during the last  12 months we have had the opposite problem from the rest of Spain with regular spells of heavy rain and some torrential downpours. Our valley has had 200% of a normal years rainfall in the last 12 months with in excess of 1250 m2 of rain. I must admit that at times I look out of the window and think I have been transported to Galicia. All the local springs are running at full capacity and no water shortages are forecast for this year. The wild flowers should be spectacular this year.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: elperronegro on March 23, 2008, 14:34 PM
Here in the Sierra Nevada, we have had some snow in the last few days above 2700m, but the dominant feature has been the very strong winds, especially at altitude where we had to abort an ascent of Mulhacen this morning! Last week, here in Lanjaron (altuitude 600m asl) we had night time temps of 15 deg but last night it was 3 deg! Bbbbrrrr......had to get out the extra blanket and the woolly pyjamas!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: potes on March 23, 2008, 15:00 PM
This is the current view from my balcony in the liebana area as of 14:30 23/03/08 all changed at 14:32 back to heavy snow oh well nothing for it but to have another glass of orjo

regards

Potes
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Els Frares on March 23, 2008, 15:20 PM
15:00 and it is now snowing in Quatretondeta , we are only at 630 mts altitude and 50 kms from Benidorm. I doubt that the beaches will be over busy today.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on March 23, 2008, 19:10 PM
It has been beautifully sunny and warm, but today, well we were celebrating our 40th W Anniversary in the garden.  So what happened, sun which was supposed to be out all day (according to the forecasts) went in and a strong cold wind blew up. surprise surprise all our guest went early.  Oh well, we still couldnt even contemplate celebrating outside in the LOG.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: John C on March 23, 2008, 19:37 PM
Congratulations on your anniversary, Tony.  Here in Canterbury we've had sleet, wet, slushy snow and genuine snowflakes - none of it settled.  I hope it warms up when we're out in Spain in a couple of weeks,

John
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Sue on March 23, 2008, 21:06 PM
Congratulations on your anniversary Tony!

Over in Grazalema we have not seen any of this snow you are all talking about, but we have had the cold wind. Today was mostly a clear sky, with the need to put on another jumper and it’s 6 degrees at 9 pm. We were all in by the log burner well before dark, you can see how cold it is, the normally ferocious animals are sharing!

During the week we have had two lots of rain 27mm on Wednesday and a further 12 mm last night.  :)
The river is noisy again, but the ground looks dry again after the wind!
The fuente from which we usually get our drinking water is reluctant to start flowing.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lisa on March 24, 2008, 09:28 AM
This is the current view from my balcony in the liebana area as of 14:30 23/03/08 all changed at 14:32 back to heavy snow oh well nothing for it but to have another glass of orjo

regards

Potes

Looks like the spellchecker had a couple too  >:D
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on March 24, 2008, 15:52 PM
I can see from your postings there’s been an upheaval in the weather, just like up north. I’ve been staying in Bath, and the weather was changing every two minutes: from sun to rain to sun again.  On one occasion snow flakes appeared from a nearly clear sky: I thought they were blossom, but the wind was blowing them from a distant grey cloud.
Flying over France this morning the only thing to see was a thick white blanket of cloud, which finished at the Pyrenees.  Once over in Spain there were small broken up clouds, and fresh snow on Montseny.  The visibility was spectacular.  The plane was bouncing up and down in the strong north-west wind, which shortened the flight time. Once back in town, I stepped off the bus and found the plane trees in Barcelona are glowing with fresh green leaves.

Congratulations, Tony!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: potes on March 24, 2008, 17:06 PM
ooUUp's ! blUme muy neighbUr i fink e mukes it 2 strung!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Putes
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on April 08, 2008, 19:40 PM
Hi All
After a beautiful summer like weekend with temperatures in the mid 20´s, the rain has arrived, very wet yesterday and today, but still with sunny intervals, the rain is desperately needed here, as elsewhere, so no one is complaining, spent a damp evening yesterday with mi cuñeado, sampling Asturian seafood, in one of the plazas, despite the fact we were in a tent, one elderly lady kept her umbrella up all the time, walked home having sampled percebes, Necora, empañada (not seafood) and other delicacy's, all free and gratis sadly the gaitas never got to play.
regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on April 08, 2008, 19:54 PM
Well here in Grazalema we have had a a couple of weeks of strange summer like temperatures... Sunday hit 27 degrees...

It started to rain yesterday afternoon and hasn't stopped, dumping over 80 litres per metres on us in the last 24 hours or so... The village of Grazalema will have had much more than this as it is on the rainy side of the mountain...

The river is very loud, white topped and rushing down to the reservoir that needs a good top up...The fields are a mass of brown waterfalls and cascades...

Our vegetable garden looks like a rice paddy field....

There are some rather worrying gusts of wind as well and I am wondering if the new place we have put the caravan is a wise decision. Still its at least a metre above the water level and nicely sheltered by a huge poplar tree and a Eucalyptus.... :)

Clive
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on April 08, 2008, 21:57 PM
Catalunya could do with some of that.  They keep predicting the rain's coming, but it never seems to arrive.  Maybe on Thursday.  If the sun comes back out again in Grazalema in time for the summit, I imagine a landscape full of flowers.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on April 08, 2008, 22:49 PM
Well, we had rain in the Els Ports yesterday, and although today was patchy sunshine and cloud it has started to rain again this evening. 
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on April 09, 2008, 08:13 AM
Woke up to the sound of rain drops - it's only drizzling, but hopefully it's raining hard further north where the reservoirs are.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: spanishfreelander on April 09, 2008, 21:14 PM
Hi All,
Must have nearly rained for 24 hours non stop here in Extremadura yesterday,,,the wettest day we have had since moving here.
Today has been dry but overcast...with more rain forcast for tomorrow.
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: spanishfreelander on April 11, 2008, 20:32 PM
Hi all,
add another 24 hours of non-stop rain to my last post...even the dogs have started to go rusty...lol
Sunny Spain?...huh...lol
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on April 20, 2008, 10:25 AM
Hi All
I must admit to being responsible for all the rain falling at the moment, I went to the LOG on Tuesday to bring my Mum back for a holiday, i left in sunshine, and arrived in Stansted to rain, It has followed me ever since. It has rained off and on for the last 4 days, at at the moment it´s drizzling, Mum is not too impressed, thank god for the indoor shopping centre.
Regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on April 20, 2008, 14:55 PM
Pouring down with rain here also
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Sue on April 20, 2008, 19:08 PM
We have had 220 litres per metre of rain in the last 3 days, luckily those here (for the first forum meeting) had packed up their tents and moved indoors!
Even a bit of sleet, thunder and lightening today.

Sue
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Jill on April 23, 2008, 13:25 PM
Interesting to read about all this rain that the rest of you have been enjoying and enduring. Here in La Manga we've not had a drop.

But we have had a succession of fairly phenomenal winds. We notice them more now that we are at anchor, rather than in the marina, but the locals have confirmed the fact that this is this is the windiest spell that we've had in over three years. Some say it is the windiest weather that they have ever seen here.

The winds have all been from the SSW. We spent the first anchored off the island, where the holding is good. (ie, the bottom is made of thick mud, so the hook / anchor can get a good hold.) Naturally, we try to get into the lee of something big when the wind is strong (ie, we try to anchor behind a hill) but on this occasion the wind crept round the hill and into the anchorage.

That first gale was on the 9th and 10th of April, I think. It blew at full gale strength (Beaufort force 9) consistently for much of this time and occasionally reached 55 knots = Beaufort storm force.

The second session occurred a week later (18th, 19th, 20th April) while we were anchored off La Ribera (next to the military air base / Murcia international airport). The holding here is abysmal - the bottom seems to be made of rock - and so we spent much of the time dragging. The wind strength averaged force 9 (full gale) but we had a couple of force 10 squalls, each lasting about an hour.

Two such gales in quick succession would be unremarkable in the English Channel during the winter, and we have certainly seen weather as bad as this in the Straits (Gibraltar), but it isn't the sort of thing we expect to get in the Mar Menor. (During our 3 years here we have seen one such gale, last February. It lasted one night and put a friend's boat on the only rocks in the entire lagoon...)

Interestingly enough, the weather forecast on each occasion was for only force 6. This forecast comes from Wind Guru and is based on info given to them from the airport aforementioned... They kept on forecasting force 6 even while their planes were grounded! Strange, because Wind Guru is usually impressively accurate in its wind predictions.

Another interesting fact is that the wind dropped to nothing at all each night. Each morning was calm and sunny, and the wind only hit full force at about midday. This is obviously a land effect. ie. during the day the local mountains exaggerated the wind sent to us by the prevalent weather system, by funnelling the wind. (The venturi effect - which you will no doubt remember from your school physics lessons...). During the night the cooling of the land contradicted the weather system and completely cancelled it out.

Today we are enjoying a sunny force 2 and are able to anchor off the port and do some wifi-ing!

Jill
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on April 23, 2008, 13:45 PM
Quote
Today we are enjoying a sunny force 2 and are able to anchor off the port and do some wifi-ing!

Is that why fying of wiffy ing?

:)

Hi all, along with the rain last week here in the Sierra de Grazalema we had some of the highest winds I have experienced and I feared our house, caravan and garden were going to be squashed by either a poplar tree, a eucalyptus tree or both!

All weather is connected I suppose and if you think that we haven't had any rain for three years and Jill hasn't had any wind (no pun intended :) when we got loads of rain the Mollymawkers got a load of wind..... When the rain was at its worse our big wind was coming from the South West.

Is this connected?
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Jill on April 23, 2008, 18:26 PM
I've heard that eucalyptus trees drop their branches very easily in a gale. I should move your a house over a bit, Clive.

It's really hard for me to picture your bone dry barranco as a bubbling brook - still less a raging torrent. So there's hope yet for the old water mill... A project for the next Grazalema summit, perhaps.

Yes, your weather and ours were part of the same system. Some big low sitting somewhere or other and giving the whole of Europe an exciting time. I think Nick said it that t was two lows and a high between them, exaggerating and exacerbating everything.  I guess it ran out of rain before it reached us.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on April 23, 2008, 18:46 PM
Weather here today has been beautiful so I have been able to get into the pool for the 2nd time this year to empty out, clean and refill.   Last time I did it was only 2 weeks ago and then we had the winds and the rain move in to fill it full of leaves and silt.  So, hang onto your hats folks.
Tony
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Maria on April 27, 2008, 17:48 PM
We had record temp on Friday with 29.6!

4 days of rain the previous week provided us with 47mm of rain and lots of new snow. The ski centre had shut then decided to open again but today is its last day, still plenty for ski touring though for those of us who like to get away from the hords of people  :dancing:
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on April 27, 2008, 19:02 PM
Yesterday was beautiful and hot - went for first real swim of the year in pool, but today started well and has now become increasingly cloudy - getting ready for tomorrow as we had planned on visiting the natursit beach at L'Hospitalet - Oh well, just have to see what happens.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Spanish Footsteps on May 04, 2008, 17:18 PM
We have had a hot dry week, with temps around 20 cel.  Today we had a thunder storm follwed by some well needed rain to help our allotment beds settle.
We should have some more rain overnight, so it will be an early morning looking for some mushrooms!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: judith on May 04, 2008, 18:14 PM
Warm and dry all week here in our part of Extremadura, temps in the mid to high 20's. Great for snake watching! Have had a horseshoe whip snake take up temporary residence on the edge of the patio....very pretty! Peanut has promised to upload the pics...but.... he is too busy being a naturist in the garden!
Can still see snow on the mountain tops and apparently more to come next week....goody goody, maybe the well won't run dry!
Judith
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on May 05, 2008, 09:11 AM
Some really hot beauiful weather during the last week allowed me to get on with plenty of work in the garden interspersed with the occasional cooling off in the pool, but today has clouded over and the forecast for the week is not good.
Title: Re: What's the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Technopat on May 08, 2008, 14:47 PM
Greetings All,
Just about survived* the bochorno of the last few days and delighted that it finally started raining here in Madrid last night and has continued for most of the morning.  :dancing:
*It doesn't affect me too much, but you certainly notice it in the behaviour of my fellow/ess city-dwellers, and especially among car drivers, whose already-short-fuse tempers reach dangerous limits, as well as among teenagers, who teem to the parks with their calimochos or whatever it is they're drinking these days and leave broken bottles, vomit and other forms of litter, which together with the evidence left behind of the passing of dog-owners, makes walking in Madrid far more of an adventure than walking out in the countryside, where you only have to avoid stepping on scorpions or snakes  :technodevil:

Regs.,
Technopat

PS.
Temps. have dropped, too.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on May 08, 2008, 23:46 PM
Hi TP, People will be gearing up for San Isidro, won't they?

There's an air of expectancy up here, because the forecast is . . . rain! and lots of it.  It's supposed to come tomorrow afternoon, and continue for a couple of days.  The question is, will it just douse the southern border of Catalunya and go no further, as it's been doing for the last 2 years? 
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Technopat on May 09, 2008, 09:32 AM
Greetings Lucy,
Re. your San Isidro, yes it does mean that some people will get wet - but there you go: "you can't please all of the people all of the time" (Sp. anyone?) :technodevil:, but I don't know what the actual forecast is.

Hope-it-rains-where-you-are-too regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on May 09, 2008, 09:41 AM
Rain here in the Els Ports and the foredast is for lots of rain and storms over through till at least next Friday.  Hope that it is not too correct as although the rain is needed I will get a bout of depression just like I did in the LOG.  One or two days I can cope with and then the lack of sunshine kicks in.  :'(
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on May 09, 2008, 14:39 PM
Hi Tony,

Just think how much you'll appreciate the blue sky when it finally reappears.  Or try to imagine a sultry, airless night in the middle of August, when you long for a drop of cool rain!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Jill on May 09, 2008, 20:52 PM
It is pretty much unheard of for it to rain in La Manga between the months of March and September, but yesterday it was bucketing down for most of the day.

We were taking the kids to the airport (to fly over to that other place to do some more exams) and the vis on the motorway was scary. White and silver-grey cars - the most popular colours in Spain - were completely lost in the spray. We drove home via the back roads, on the edge of the Mar Menor, and the streets were running like fast flowing streams! What a sick joke! The country is crying out for rain but there were thousands of gallons of it flowing straight off the tarmac and into the sea!

First photo shows the "river" running past a palm tree on the pavement.

The second shows a bridge over the road. Yes, it really is supposed to be a road, passing under those arches!

I don't think this rain will have done much for our seagulls nesting on Isla Perdiguera or for the Audouin's on la Grosa. We left our two feathered friends sitting in the cockpit with adequate shelter, but they were too bird-brained to stand under the shelter... When we got back they were both drenched.

Jill
Title: Re: What's the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Technopat on May 09, 2008, 21:07 PM
Greetings Jill and All,
Too late to wish the kids "Good luck!" with their exams, but I'm sure Caesar will find time to log in/on :technodevil:

Re. yer "grey silvery-grey cars", did you notice how many of 'em actually had their lights on? And the speeds they go at under such weather conditions. It's something that never ceases to amaze me. Likewise, yours truly has been to Sevilla, a famously hot city, on several occasions and has yet to see it by the light of day, even though I've only been there at daytime - torrential rain reducing vis. to 10 km on the motorway. No-one who isn't from Sevilla believes me, 'cos most people visit the place in summer. And the torrential rain in Mojacar, not too far from where you are, early September, also has to be seen to be believed  :dancing:

Surely seagulls and whatchamacallems are waterproofed and able to take a few roughs with a smooth?

We-could-def.-do-with-more-rain-up-'ere regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Jill on May 09, 2008, 21:24 PM
The adult gulls will be fine, of course. I was thinking of the fluff balls. We're planning to go over there tomorrow and have a look.
Title: Re: What's the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Technopat on May 15, 2008, 21:40 PM
Greetings All,
Technopat's faith in miracles has gone down the drain (Sp. anyone?). San Isidro, our local harbinger of rain, has been unable to bring the goods and as of 21.45 local time hardly a cloud to be seen over Madrid. :technodevil:
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on May 15, 2008, 23:01 PM
That's because they are all over Catalonia TP
What is a poor naturist to do ?
Title: Re: What's the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Technopat on May 15, 2008, 23:27 PM
Greetings All,
How 'bout "singing in the rain"?
Apart from those long walks in the countryside in the pouring rain and drying out in front of a blazing fire, some of my fondest memories are of dancing naked in the rain :dancing: - Great for purifying the soul :technodevil:
Likewise rolling n. in the snow ...
Those-were-the-days-my-friend,-I-thought-they'd-never-end regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: What's the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Technopat on May 16, 2008, 09:09 AM
Greetings All,
OK, OK! So it's raining* in Madrid. No need to rub it in! (Sp. anyone?)
*Actually, chispeando (Sp. anyone?)
Must-try-not-to-be-so-critical-of-saints regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: What's the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Technopat on May 17, 2008, 08:55 AM
Greetings All,
The drizzle that appeared briefly yesterday was pathetic - San Isidro has def. blown it, and restored me lack of faith in miracles :technodevil: . Today's skies over Madrid are decidedly blue and, as of 9am local time, look to staying that way. Great for the snap-shotting tourists and golf players, not so good for the crops...

Regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on May 17, 2008, 09:26 AM
Yesterday there were heavy rainfalls over the Els Ports and I think that they played havoc with the internet as I spent several hours trying to download a photo to the Forum and gave up in the end.  Must try again now.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lisa on May 24, 2008, 14:53 PM
Well, I've never known a May like it! Or that's what I would say if I was Lebaniega. So far this month we've had one solitary, 24-hour spell of dry weather. I've been able to dash around for the odd hour or two to see the spring flowers, between the showers/storms. It just doesn't seem to be shifting. Haven't got any figures I'm afraid but have got a soggy swallow.............
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on May 24, 2008, 15:18 PM
When we were in Tortosa this morning the sun was shining beautifully, but as soon as we got back to the mountains of the Els Ports it was back to the rain and storms.
Incidentally our Spanish teacher was saying at the lesson today that the authorities were saying there was no need for the transvasament now.  How much that is wishful thinking I don't know but I cannot see it being called off for one month of rain myself.
Title: Re: What's the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Technopat on May 24, 2008, 20:25 PM
Greetings All,
Since last update, Madrid has had major rainfall - and yours truly having got thoroughly soaked and had to change clothes twice on Friday morning, finally decided that whatchamallit was the better part of valour (i.e. Mrs Tp insisted) and took an umbrella with him. Didn't rain Friday afternoon. :dancing:
As of 20.30 local time today, lovely blues skies, but everyone at the greengrocer's this morning were saying that "va a caer una esta noche...".

Regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on May 25, 2008, 10:06 AM
It's pouring here, and set to last all day.  Good news, but my question is, why always at the weekend?
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on May 25, 2008, 11:30 AM
its pouring here in the Els Ports as well, and I have had to double my dose of antidepressants - the very thing that I wanted to cut out when we moved to Spain and its sunny climes.  Yesterday we had to cancel our planned walk in the mountains because of the bad weather. 
I see that we also have another week of rain forecast, which I am praying will be incorrect as my sister is due out for a weeks holiday.  Why is it that when the weather goes off in Spain it goes off for weeks on end, rather than a week here and there which I could cope with ?
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on May 25, 2008, 13:02 PM
Come on now..... Can't be complaining about this much needed rainfall,,, :)

Rain in Grazalema has made my veggie plot produce 10 times better than with irrigation... Orange trees previously in bad shape have been washed clean and had a foliar feed of good wholesome rain full of nutrients.....

The displays of wild flowers in the mountains is simply stunning. The rain has extended the spring by quite a few weeks

Raining here this morning with another 20mm overnight...

Title: Re: What's the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Technopat on May 25, 2008, 14:11 PM
Greetings Clive and Sue,
Sounds great!
So bubbling brook still bubbling away, eh?
As for yer
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veggie plot produce 10 times better than with irrigation
looks like someone's got some weeding to do... :technodevil:

Regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Maria on May 25, 2008, 16:27 PM
Tony you must be living in the wrong part of Spain  :noidea: if you dont want rain you should be here in Lanjaron, unfortunately the rain clouds seem to forget that we exist!! Its not rained here now for 2 weeks and when it did rain it only managed 21mm over 3 days  ::). Still like Clive says, the rain is far better for the veggie plot than our irrigation systems.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on May 25, 2008, 17:22 PM
Of course I realise that we need the water drastically, and as you say it is doing the veggies the world of good, although all my strawberries have gone rotten because I couldn't get out to pick them all ( reminder - must buy a rumtopf for next year).  But unfortunately when one suffers from SAD looking out day after day to see mostly grey skies and rain finally takes it toll. (Smack hands - one should not begin a sentence with but !!.  Neither should one end a sentence with a preposition (except in this case it isn't.))
Sorry just feeling low and miserable and shouldn't take it out on everyone else.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Maria on May 25, 2008, 17:48 PM
A bright point :- if its raining down low, then its snowing up high  :dancing: now snow always makes you smile  :biggrin:
Title: Re: What's the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Technopat on May 25, 2008, 20:23 PM
Greetings Tony and All,
Sorry to see that you're down in the dumps (Sp. anyone?).
Please don't feel bad 'bout beginning a sentence with BUT - contrary to what many of us were taught oh-so-many-years-ago there's naught wrong with it - as in so many other questions of style, it shouldn't be overdone.
As for the no-prep-at-the-end-of-the-sentence scam, have just posted summat on the Language thread so as not go too far off topic here.
http://www.iberianatureforum.com/index.php?topic=519.msg13283#msg13283

Looking forward to crossing swords - sorry! - words there.  :technodevil:
Regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on May 25, 2008, 23:53 PM
Hi Tony, and everyone else,

I just couldn't keep away from this 'ere weather topic any longer, despite my reservations - I've even been reduced to talking about the weather with Mrs S, the Simonhounds won't go out, little Ahmed two floors up the solar is onto his fourth molar and want0s to tell the world about it AND I'M TRAPPED INDOOR JUST LIKE YOU LOT!!!

I must say I feel for you Tony. We accept the spells of spring weather up in the Pyrenees, comes with the territory, but here on the coast it's just not on. Yesterday it even stayed dry in Reus, where it always seems to be raining in my humble O, while here, just ten kliks away, it bucketed. But we only have spring weather like this every five years or so, including at Els Ports, so if you want to cheer yourself up with lots of statistics (all the better for blinding you with, Little Red Riding Hood  >:D) try this: http://www.meteocat.com/english/index.html

I'm afraid the English doesn't go down very far onto the pages but if you check out the 'EMA' data you'll find an interactive map with last minute statistics for all of the automatic stations in Catalonia: as of now (23.44 Sunday) you've had 29.1 mm of rainfall today, but cheer up, you could be at Molló with 92.4 mm and at Boi it's minus 0.1º  :biggrin:

Regs

Simon

PS if you have a slow modem or whatever, be warned about the EMA page!

PPS there's talk of the mini trasvessament being stopped if the reservoirs of the 'Cocas Internas' reaching 50% capacity - I have more to say on the Catalonia water page but as it's now stopped raining buckest out of my bedroom window, and little Ahmend's calpol is beginning to work  8) I think I'm off to beddy-byes!


Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lisa on May 26, 2008, 08:20 AM
Now then Tony, where are your wellies and mac? In between the showers lately here I've seen lots of wildlife, particularly small birds that have to get out when they can to build nests, feed young, etc. And then there's a nice hot bath to look forward to when I get home  8)
Sorry for the "pull yourself together" equivalence  :)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on May 26, 2008, 09:18 AM
Hi Tony, When it’s soggy it can also be quite nice to go walking in woods, where under the canopy it doesn’t matter so much if the sky isn’t blue.  The general lack of people also means creatures are out and about much more.  Walking about in warm clothes and waterproofs does seem unseasonal at this stage of May, but I’m sure it’ll be a cherished memory in the torrid months to come. 

ps. Simon, a "coca interna" = a digested coca?
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on May 26, 2008, 10:02 AM
Hi Everyone and thanks for your suggestions.
I do wish that going for walks would assist, but unfortunately when there are periods of grey the lack of sunlight causes a chemical inbalance in the brain, or so the doctors told me when I was back in the LOG - so the answer I suppose, apart from medically retiring to Spain, should be to invest in a light box and to just up the tablets.
Anyway, the sun is shining this morning so things are starting to feel better already - but the weather forecast doesn't look good.
Title: Re: What's the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Technopat on May 26, 2008, 12:55 PM
Greetings Tony,
Before getting side-tracked by those preps-at-the-end and all those buts (just the one t) at the beginning, I had been intrigued by yer great jargoon rumtobf as in
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( reminder - must buy a rumtopf for next year).
which you used in the context of rotten (soggy?) strawberries. After spending some time juggling combinations of keys to see which ones you'd hit by accident, I was forced to give up, more or less in the hope that someone else would take you up on it. :noidea:

As for your
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...shouldn't take it out on everyone else.
, rarin' to go .... :technodevil: so go for it! (Sp. anyone?)

Regs.,
Technopat
PS.
While we're at it, I have an existentialist question I need help with re. cycling in the nude, but we'd better broach it on the relevant thread - http://www.iberianatureforum.com/index.php?topic=1542.0
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on May 26, 2008, 18:32 PM
I'll put you out of your misery Teeps, here goes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumtopf

Interesting what happened to your rendition as "rumtobf", what were the intermediate stages?

As for "Go for it!", I'm really not sure, in Catalan "Vingiu!" would seem to fit, but in Sp. dare I suggest, "¡Empuje!" :booklook: So there you have it Tony, ¡Empuje!

Simon


PS and another thing! The pundits are predicting another week of torrential rain in the Catalan Pyrenees, with the strong possibilty of a repeat of the disasterous, and fatal, flooding of 1982!
Title: Re: What's the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Technopat on May 26, 2008, 19:51 PM
Greetings Simon and Tony and All,
Tony - hope the sun held out and you managed to stock up on sunshine/sunbeams/Vitamin A or whatever it is out of which you've run  :technodevil:

As for the Go for it! - y'all have until tomorrow noonish to come up with the goods. I'll take Simon's word for it for the Catalan.

Thanx for solving that rumtopf for me, Simon - that weird "b" reminds me of Mr Smoke-Too-Much* :dancing:

*Just to jog yer memory:
http://orangecow.org/pythonet/sketches/package.htm

Cheers,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on May 26, 2008, 19:58 PM
Greetings indeed Techno, Tony, et al

As if I needed reminding! In fact I rather hoped to forget! Bye the way, have you read 'Lady Don't Fall Backwards by D'Arcy Sarto'?

Tony, (the other one!) We've had some sunshine up the coast here in TGN this afternoon, how's it been for you?

Regs

Simon
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on May 27, 2008, 09:47 AM
Hi after some sunshine yesterday although the clouds in the Els Ports made it sporadic woke up this morning to find that it is raining again.  See the weather forecast for Tortosa now predicts rain right through to next Tuesday with a day's break on Thursday. 
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on May 27, 2008, 10:12 AM
Went to bed listening to the pattering sound again and saw lightning out to sea.  Weatherman Alfred Rodriguez Pico mentioned in his EL Periodico column that this is heading to be the wettest May in Catalunya since 1977. Tony, at least it's nearly over.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on May 27, 2008, 10:20 AM
Alfred is always worth a read! It's such a shame that he's no longer on the telly, but then again thee are some compensations; I think I'm i love with Monica Lopez :clapping:

Never mind Tony. I tend to hail in June instead of rain, just as your soft fruits are comng on to ripening - so get along to IKEA and buy that rumtopf!  :dancing:

Simon
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Technopat on May 27, 2008, 10:25 AM
Greetings Tony and All,
After gusty morning which blew away all the clouds, bright blue skies here in Madrid till it started getting dark at around 10pm last night  :dancing: & b. b. skies this morning... :noidea:

Regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on May 27, 2008, 11:40 AM
Lucy, how do you know its nearly over ?
Have you heard something that I have not because I don't understand Spanish well enough yet to comprehend everything being said ?
Any clues to light at the end of the tunnel would be much appreciated as at present I am feeling really down.
Tony
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: ladena on May 27, 2008, 13:01 PM
Hi everyone

Yes Tony I agree- the forecast for the next week around here is pretty depressing. A couple of days of light rain or the odd spectacular thunderstorm can sometimes be quite enjoyable. But here in the Ebro Valley at least  we are now into our third week of rain (it started on the 10th May) and the last couple of days in particular it has been steady, unrelenting and heavy skies. I know we've had one or two bright days in between but I'm getting fed-up of apologising to our guests now! Especially when they are enduring rain and it is fine in UK! On the plus side - some good-sized catfish have been caught so for the anglers it kind of makes up for the rain !


I know we need the rain but I am soooo looking forward to our bright day forecast for Thursday!

Dena
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on May 27, 2008, 13:08 PM
Hi Tony,

Have a look at the Catalan weather site.  This is the forecast for the next 7 days (they admit it's not always accurate).  Scroll to the bottom for Amposta, and see what they predict for June 1st onwards.  Looks better than for Barcelona!

http://www.meteocat.com/mediamb_xemec/servmet/previsio/totes.htm
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on May 27, 2008, 13:43 PM
Thanks for that Lucy - it certainly looks better than Weatheronline
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on May 27, 2008, 17:52 PM
Hi Tony et al,

I've just taken a scan on Weatheronline, what a load of balderdash! It's got about as much to say about the wether here as I have about salmon fishing in Nova Scotia!

Juts keep a look-see on Meteocat like Lucy and I do (and bear in nd that we live in a difficult area as far as mid range weather goes!) and you'll feel, if not better, at least more well informed!!!!!

Keep your pecker up old son (metaphorically speaking of course, at least in public!) and hang on in there - remember that in just a few weeks time you'll be dreaming about this 'mild' weather!

Regs

Simon

PS if it's any consolation, our huskies are totally destroyed by this situation, neither one-thing-nor.t'other!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on May 27, 2008, 19:23 PM
A nice feature of Meteocat is the radar map, where you can see exactly where it's raining at the moment, and with what intensity. Then if you click on the animated version you can see in which direction all the rain clouds are moving. Catalans are keen on weather!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on May 27, 2008, 21:59 PM
Yeah, thanks for the link to Meteocat.
I had always used Weatheronline because when we came out here the fishing ex-pats told me that they found it the most reliable for planning their trips on the river.
I am not a fisherperson by the way.  It may upset you if you are into fishing but when my father tried to introduce me to it I found that it was the most boring way of spending a day out.  I much prefer to be mooching around seeing what is going on in the outside world.  Even when on the beach I cannot sit still for long, which annoys my wife as I have to go off and leave her and have a walk or a poke around in the rock pools to see what exciting things might be in there.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on May 28, 2008, 04:12 AM
Hi Guys,

More weather action on TV3's website: http://www.3cat24.cat/galeria/6772/1/

Sleeplessly Simon  >:D
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: ladena on May 28, 2008, 10:37 AM
.... and even more weather on the Spanish met site : http://www.aemet.es/es/eltiempo/prediccion/localidades  forecasts detailed down to village level.

Dena 
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on May 29, 2008, 06:39 AM
Nice one Dena!

Simon
Title: Re: What's the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Technopat on May 29, 2008, 13:51 PM
Greetings Tony, Dena, Simon and All,

Before I forget and go and get side-tracked with what I came 'ere for, hope Tony's getting a bit of sunshine into 'is life (does it have to be actual sunshine, or do plain ol' ultraviolet rays work?) and that Dena's managing to keep her feet dry.  :)

Right, back to true character and treading on people's corns  :technodevil:

Tony, the original mistake you made re. Weatheronline was believing what you were told by fishermen, aka anglers. If on top of that they were also expats...  >:D

Simon, I know I have had occasion to point this out elsewhere, and on more than one occasion, :angel: but one of the things y'all need to reach Full 'Shroomey status here at iberianatureforum is prescience - sometime last year on this very thread, yours truly posted the following http://www.iberianatureforum.com/index.php?topic=966.msg10748#msg10748

Which reminds me of summat our Oh-Great-and-Wise Etceteras, in their prescient way, broached some time back and nothing came of it:
I really think we should set up some sort of thread on each specific board exclusively devoted to external links that have been previewed and "officially" sanctioned - possibly by an iberianatureforum peer review system - as being excellent and of general and/or more specific use. Maybe any link that is posted here by iberianatureforumers could be given pending status and then, following said peer review, upgraded to an official iberianatureforum external link which is then "locked" pending further upgrades. I reckon it's too much work for one person, which is why I think a multidisciplinary peer review system would be ideal - or am I repeating myself here?

Regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on May 29, 2008, 14:08 PM
Repeating? Yes... Talking about the weather in your area? No!

Keep on topic please
Title: Re: What's the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Technopat on May 29, 2008, 14:12 PM
Sigh...
Madrid overcast - no rain - 30 secs' worth of drizzle this morning.
:angel: regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on May 29, 2008, 20:11 PM
Thanks for your consideration TP.  Yes, the sun has been shining here today, so we spent a day on the beach at L'Hospitalet to recharge my batteries.  Have you ever been to Playa del Torn, TP.  It is the most fantastic naturist beach - in my personal opinion one of the best in Spain with an area of scientific interest (nature wise) at the rear.  Still mustn't stray off topic.  Yes UV rays would do, which is one of the reasons why I must consider geting a light box if we are to continue getting periods like this.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on October 23, 2008, 13:05 PM
No one's been on this topic sincelast May, maybe because there hasn't been much weather to talk about (thinking of Dave and the eternal Leon summer).  This October is turning out very different to last year, when it was worryingly dry.  Lots of rain, though in the north of Catalunya without the typical torrential storms - think it's a bit different down Simon's way, or perhaps further south near Tony. Also quite warm - turning out to be a good autumn for mushroom-hunters.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on October 23, 2008, 15:04 PM
Well Lucy I am afraid that it is wet in the Els Ports as well.  Not only that but there is also a very cold NW wind which means that we have had to put the heating on.  Not been in the pool since the end of September, when last year we were in until almost the end of October.  As you know I love the sun and the warmth and I think that this year has been very mixed with prolonged periods of rain throughout except for July and August.  So I am pleased to see that the weather is going to improve from Sunday so I may still get a few days in on the beach at L'Hospitallet.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on October 23, 2008, 19:24 PM
Hi All
Once again a beautiful warm sunny day in Leon. Just got back from the garden in Torre del Bierzo, Car jam packed with Membrillos (Quince), at least 15 kilos. The weather in Torre was reminiscent of a summers day, so got lots done, garden is now looking great, after collecting 6 sacks of leaves. Poor crop of apples and pears this year, but the whole of Bierzo is the same, now sitting on the terrace watching the sunset with a beer.
regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on November 28, 2008, 17:25 PM
Hi All
After a couple of nights frost and temperatures of -4, today it snowed, actually in Leon city, the earliest for the 6 years we have lived here, very pretty, so I took a couple of photos.
Regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on November 28, 2008, 17:34 PM
Hey Dave,

In the "wettest part of Spain" here in Grazalema there is a pitiful half hearted drizzle of rain and no snow at all...... Not fair!... Snow to the east, west and north of us but not here...

Forecast is rain for the coming week..... I hope we get some...
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Maria on November 28, 2008, 18:08 PM
Is anyone else getting these horrendous winds? On monday we recorded a gust of 55.2mph and the forecast for us here in the Sierra Nevada is really high winds for the weekend and snow!!! I believe its snowed in Almeria aswell!

Maria
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on November 28, 2008, 18:59 PM
yes, we are getting cold gusting winds here in the Els Ports as well.  Was snowing further up the valley in Alfara two days ago but nothing settled, not even on Tosca or Mt. Caro which normally get a covering.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lisa on November 28, 2008, 21:22 PM
It's a bit nippy up here. Luckily no wind though. Mike's been out skiing twice this week and took this lovely photo, so here you have current snow conditions in the Picos de Europa  8)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on November 28, 2008, 21:31 PM
Not fair!

We have rain now but just rain......... We want snow!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on November 29, 2008, 10:48 AM
It's pelting with rain this morning, dark and very cold.  Might be snowing in the highest part of the city!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: nick on November 29, 2008, 11:01 AM
Dog of a weekend. Looks like our planned walk this Sunday is off. Snow would be nice though!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on November 29, 2008, 11:36 AM
Hi All
Well the snow has virtually disappeared. Today it is cold grey and overcast, with a few solitary flakes drifting around, a bit like summer in England  >:D
Regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on November 29, 2008, 11:44 AM
It rained hard in the night here in the sierra de Grazalema and the river bordering our garden is now thundering down the valley to the zahara lake.... Its cold at about 4 degrees but no snow not even on the higher peaks above us at 1400 metres or so... There was about an hour last night of incredibly high winds... A huge branch of a eucalyptus in the garden was torn off and is now laying half in the river and half in our garden.... That's the firewood for this winter organised... :)

Clive
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: nick on November 30, 2008, 10:13 AM
Sunday, sunny, cold and crisp. Walk is back on!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Maria on November 30, 2008, 12:36 PM
Hey we have snow here in Lanjaron  :o still very windy, sunny and rainy!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on November 30, 2008, 18:01 PM
Its snowing in Grazalema! yeh.... I like the snow, it reminds me of when I was a kid and I had to nag my dad to get the sledge down from the garage wall...... Out tomorrow... Extraordinary day off making snow men....The real reason is scientific I want to play study at tracking foxes and stuff... :)

The mountains look beautiful... I bet the griffons beaks are cold... How do they survive the heat of the summer and the cold of the winter?
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Maria on November 30, 2008, 18:41 PM
Fantastic stuff the snow. Im off training the husky >:D for skijoring, 2nd attempt this winter, enjoy the white stuff, think of me whilst you are making snowmen and wish me luck, its been nice knowing you all  :speechless:
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on November 30, 2008, 19:51 PM
Saw the snow today, but from 200km away!  The Pyrenees were shining white in the sun and you could see them very clearly from Collserola.  Wasn't quite cold enough for snow here.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on November 30, 2008, 21:00 PM
It just got warmer in Grazalema and has started to pour with rain... This will melt all the snow from today and I will have to stay in and work tomorrow instead of going out to play study
:(
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Jill on December 01, 2008, 16:23 PM
It's snowing to the south of you too, Clive.

Here in the Spanish enclave of Melilla it's 17c by day and 12c by night - and I can tell you that when you don't have any heating, that's quite cold enough, particularly when it's also pouring with rain - but they tell us that a couple of nights ago it snowed in Nador, the nearest Moroccan town!
We are told that it has also been snowing in Ifran, which is about 50km south of Fez, but very high.
We were going to make a quick trip inland to Fez, but they tell us it's pouring with rain and freezing cold. The forecast we got from the computer says minus 11c....! I guess it must be a misprint for minus 1c, but either way, it's not our idea of fun.

Jill

Bring back global warming!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on December 01, 2008, 17:16 PM
Hi Jill,

From my experience of the Atlas Mountains that's no misprint! :dancing:

More on the upper reaches of Catalonia soon.

Simon
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on December 02, 2008, 10:33 AM
Hi all
At 10:00 am Cold -1 and bright sunshine, an absolutely gorgeous day, hope it stays like this as I am off tomorrow into the Bierzo mountains, to visit a slate mine, i will report back
Regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Spanish Footsteps on December 12, 2008, 10:28 AM
Hola

Well after a few days of windy, cold and snowy conditions, which saw our Satelite dish take off to the heavens (yes no BBC now!!), we have the most beautiful calm and sunny morning.  The woodland birds, Chaffinch, Great tit, Robins, Nuthatch etc are coming more frequently due to the feeding station we have set up on our terrace.  We also have a couple of resident Red kites that soar passed our house at terrace level, seems to be a lot of raptor action in the valley this year.  So far this month we have spotted a Goshawk, Peregrine falcon, Buzzard, Red kite, Griffons in large numbers and a kestrel.

The snow has melted from most of the valley (1100m), but still covers the Sierra Cebollera (2200m) and looks a pretty sight.  We have been having minus 3 temps for the last few days, but are due for a temp rise to 2-4 degrees Celsius, almost tshirt weather !!

Here is a photo taken from our bedroom window.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Spanish Footsteps on December 13, 2008, 13:21 PM
It started snowing at 10am and we already have at least 2 inches outside, the perfect Christmas scene!!  Enjoying it all next to the open fire.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Spanish Footsteps on December 13, 2008, 17:39 PM
In Soria.

We now have a foot of snow outside and it doesnt look like its going to stop any time soon.    :santa_grin:
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: glennie on December 13, 2008, 20:18 PM
That sounds great.
The usual boring old rain in Madrid city centre.
Possibility of snow tomorrow, but I doubt it.
Enjoy your winter wonderland while it lasts.  :)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on December 14, 2008, 09:48 AM
Rain and high winds here in the Els Ports yesterday, which means that the irrigation and water supply system will have got blocked up with leaves etc, and I shall have to stick my hands into icy cold water to free it !!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Spanish Footsteps on December 14, 2008, 19:40 PM
From Soria

Snow, snow, snow, snow and lost of it !!!!!

This pic was taken from our bedroom window early this morning.  The sun came out and we had now wind.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on December 14, 2008, 20:45 PM
Hi All
In Leon -1 and snowing, about 3 inches at the moment, just been for a drink walk  :santa_cheesy: and it is beautiful.
Regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on December 15, 2008, 13:07 PM
Hi All
This morning still snowing but not so cold
regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Sue on December 15, 2008, 18:27 PM
Love the impressive snow scenes from León and Soria  :santa_afro:

In Grazalema, Andalucia:
We now have clear blue skies and a really chilly nip to the air after several days of rain, with occasional sleet and gusting winds that have felled a fresh supply of logs

70ml per metre of rain fell over Saturday afternoon and evening which had the rocks rolling noisily in the river all night.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on December 27, 2008, 21:57 PM
Gales and gigantic waves have been lashing the Catalan coast.  On the TV3 news, they showed people walking along, bent over, as if collecting mushrooms.  In fact they were collecting fish!  A rman on the Costa Brava who keeps weather records explained he's never seen waves like it in 35 years of record keeping.  Hundreds of fish were tossed inland, and people have been harvesting them.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on December 28, 2008, 10:03 AM
Shame that the fish have not been tossed inland as far as the Els Ports.  It means that I would need almost a half hour trip to collect them.
Joking aside, the weather here is wet, wet, wet with snow on the tops of the surrounding mountains.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on December 28, 2008, 11:01 AM
Hi All
Here very typical Leon weather, bright sunshine and freezing cold, although today it seems a little warmer (2 degs.). some snow still lying in the shade, which is now very icy, and dangerously slippy
regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Spanish Footsteps on January 11, 2009, 19:13 PM
Hola

Blue skies and sunshine today in Soria.  The snow is still thick in the Razon Valley and on the Cebollera mountains, so very picturesque, will put some photos up soon.

The temp was up today to about 5 degrees, the weeks forcast is 5-6 degrees.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Petrea on January 12, 2009, 08:41 AM
Now we got our share  of the snow here in Axarquia. Beautiful - however, unfortunately the trees are breaking down under the weight of the wet snow.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Spanish Footsteps on January 13, 2009, 10:47 AM
Here is the latest photo from the Razon Valley in Soria.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on January 13, 2009, 13:33 PM
Hi All
The fourth decent fall of snow in Leon city this winter, here is a photo taken this morning of the Roman bridge and San Marcos hotel
Regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on January 19, 2009, 10:53 AM
Hi all, lovely snowy pictures :)

Well after a couple of weeks of coldish temperatures it has warmed up here in Grazalema and started to drizzle..... Not a drop of snow even on the highest peaks... When I say coldish I mean -4 to around 8 degrees C so nothing as chilly as Soria with it's -14 and nothing as pretty as Leon with its blanket of snow..... We just have a muddy stodgy garden.... Planting any spuds now will see the rotting within minutes.... Even the Axarquia is just a short birds flight away from us to the east but the snow didn't come to us.....

In the last three years I haven't seen the arroyo going through our garden running continuously so we are up on rainfall which is good.... The rain we have had recently has been that nice gentle pitter patter type, much better than the deluge inundation type that just washes all my top soil away...
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on January 24, 2009, 17:57 PM
Hi All
Lovely day today, but cold. Last night around 7:00pm it was 13 degs, then came the wind, apparently it was up to 107 MPH. looking out of the window this morning, the next door block of flats lost one of its chimneys, which caused a fair amount of damage to the roof, luckily the chimney stayed on the roof, so nothing fell to the ground. But this certainly is becoming a winter of extremes. The river is about a foot below its banks and the water is cascading over the weir at a rate of knots, along with various tree trunks and other debris. Just waiting to see what else will be thrown at us over the next few weeks.
Regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on January 24, 2009, 18:08 PM
Decided to explore around the mount on which the remains of the ruins of Carles castle stands this afternoon whilst walking the dogs - nearly got blown off the top.  But I have not particulalry noticed the winds being any stronger than they normally are at this time of the year in our valley in the Els Ports.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: stephanie on January 24, 2009, 18:21 PM
Here at La Calera it has been extremely windy today but the temp is 13.5 at the present and the wind is less although when Terry gets back from the dog walk on the top of the hill he may say otherwise up there.            :biggrin:  I stayed here, busy  on the computer!!
Title: Re: What's the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Technopat on February 04, 2009, 00:09 AM
Greetings All,
Re. yesterday's heaviest snowfall in London in 18 years and heaviest snowfall in Madrid coupla weeks back (missed it 'cos I was back in the LOG :banghead: *) and the almost daily news that San Glorio is cut 'cos of snow ( :banghead: ) be interested to know what the snow's like in your patch/neck of the woods these days.

*Did get to see the most incredibly beautiful hoar frost (Sp. anyone?**) out Oxford way

**The nearest I got is http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helada_blanca but not fully convinced

Madrid bitterly cold & windy these last coupla days - so much so that even I have been wrapping meself up in a woollen scarf - but right now p***ing down. Apart from those days of snow - which, as I say, I missed - I don't remember such a rainy winter here in Madrid in all the years I've etc. etc.

Might-even-have-to-use-me-brolly-tomorrow-if-it-ain't-too-windy regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lisa on February 04, 2009, 10:41 AM
From my window I can see just above the San Glorio pass, or I could if it were clear. It's been precipitating in the Cantabrian mountains in various forms since November with no respite apart from a short break in December, if I  remember rightly. The depth and altitude level of snow has been/is oscillating wildly. We've had snow at 300m, or even below, and the current depth at the San Glorio is @ 0,5m. Generally it's the most snow we've seen in a winter here BUT where are those Azores highs? There have certainly been very few days where a ski resort would have been attractive. Who would want to ski in cold clag and wind? (Apart from the odd ski mountaineer obviously  :))

P.S. Good to see you back with a vengeance Tp  8) Hoar frost = escarcha (http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escarcha)?
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on February 04, 2009, 12:19 PM
Well, it's just plain raining in Grazalema! Of course it is I hear you cry, Grazalema is the wettest place in Spain you know :)
http://www.grazalemaguide.com/nature-news/34-general-nature/179-weather-in-grazalema.html

We haven't had any snow apart from a light sprinkling ages ago.... and that was only above 1000 metres or so...

I feel cheated :(
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on February 04, 2009, 19:23 PM
Its been a beautifully warm sunny day here in the Els Ports
A few more like this and I shall be able to start thinking about getting my kit off !!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Maria on February 04, 2009, 20:59 PM
Rain rain rain, thats all it ever seems to do now around here, how are you supposed to get your washing dry  ??? or pluck up the courage to go do battle with the mud in the campo to get it ready for the veggies that would so like to be in the ground  :speechless:
Title: Re: What's the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Technopat on February 05, 2009, 00:45 AM
Greetings Lisa, Maria 'n' All,
Re. Lisa's
Quote
back with a vengeance
- you ain't seen nuffin' yet (Sp. anyone?)  :technodevil: and I must say I had expected a better effort from you skiers than escarcha as a better translation of hoar frost than helada blanca, accustomed as y'all are to ravin' 'n' rantin' on about powder snow (nieve polvo) and nieve blanda/dura, nieve costra (En. anyone?), nieve firme, nieve fresca, nieve húmeda/seca, nieve persistente, nieve podrida (En. anyone?), nieve vieja, nieve primavera and Darwin snows what else :dancing:

Re. Maria's washing drying, if you were a diver or surfer rather than a skier, wouldn't have much to worry 'bout, would you? You'd just change from yer wetsuit into yer drysuit and not have a care in the world :angel: As for yer soggy veg., maybe rice fields (Sp. anyone?) is what's called for rather than tomatoes & runner beans.

Particularly enjoyed the consecutive postings highlighting the juxtaposition 'tween Clive's grumbling 'bout the rain and Tony's "beautifully warm sunny day here in the Els Ports". Sums Spain up really nicely, doesn't it? - un país de contrastes... :clapping:

Back-with-a-vengeance regs.,
Technopat

Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Maria on February 05, 2009, 10:50 AM
I think canoeing would be the best option at the moment and a rice paddy is the best idea yet  :clapping: Maybe I should swap the husky for a dolphin  :noidea:

Ok so I forgot the snow, so wrapped up in the rain, I guess the good news is is that the snow level is dropping and at this moment in time its snowing at around 1245m  :dancing: just need the weather to clear up so we can get out and enjoy it. We did get 1 day skiing slotted in, we took 2 beginners up which was great fun and the video can be viewed at http://www.kierstenrowland.com/2009/01/skiing-sierra-nevada/ (http://www.kierstenrowland.com/2009/01/skiing-sierra-nevada/) which is very funny and should cheer up all us grumblers about rain  :)
Title: Re: What's the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Technopat on March 28, 2009, 14:34 PM
Gale alerts in 30 of Spain's 50 provinces this weekend:
http://www.elpais.com/articulo/espana/Alerta/provincias/temporal/lluvia/nieve/elpepuesp/20090328elpepunac_5/Tes

Hold-onto-yer-hollyhocks-nasturtiums-an'-whatnots regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on March 29, 2009, 12:47 PM
I don't know about gales, but after several weeks of blissfully warm sunshine it has suddenly gone cold and windy.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on March 29, 2009, 12:54 PM
Cold, blustery, grey and rainy in Grazalema today.... Shorts and flip flops last week........ Still these showers are making the spring wild flowers very lush and abundant
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on March 29, 2009, 16:31 PM
Hi All
Last 2 days very blustery, but still bright and sunny with a few clouds, temperatures last week were about 24 today 9 so the difference is noticeable. Still March has been without any rain although the snow melt has kept the rivers high, i hope we get some soon, otherwise it is going to be a very dry spring.
Regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on July 23, 2009, 23:05 PM
It was almost frighteningly hot today in BCN - a strange dry, fiery heat - as opposed to the usual mugginess.  The only thing to do was to close all windows and pull the shutters down.

When I opened the windows after sunset, it seemed a big mistake, as the air outside was still so hot, but now, miraculously, a cool (ish) breeze is blowing.

The heat arrived so suddenly.  Terrible, forest-fire weather.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on July 24, 2009, 12:29 PM
Hi Lucy,

It's not surprising you felt the heat - TV3 news this monring said some barris in Barna had record breaking temperatures.

It's been vile here in Tarragona too, although much more comfortable since the dry wind has come in from the south-east. Not record breaking srtuff, but with a very high xafago (http://www.enciclopedia.cat/cgi-bin/CercaGEC3.exe?APP=CERCAPAR&PAG=0001&PAR=xafogor) (humidity X temperature) quotient.

One mild benefit of this is that it reminds me of one of my favourite words, and the person who taught it to me*: mushiasüii, which is the same thing in Japanese. Think of the Seven Samurai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Samurai) film and say this out loud with your eyes tight shut!

Ha ha

Simon

* I know what you're thinking - No, we didn't!!!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on July 24, 2009, 14:53 PM
Highs of 40 degrees in the shade here in Grazalema... The highest temps were when we had an incredibly hot wind blowing from the north and some oppressive cloud cover last week... Forecast is for cooler temps next week...

Ecija, known as the frying pan of Spain hit 47 last week I hear....

Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Maria on July 24, 2009, 17:22 PM
We have hit 40C here in Lanjaron today and still going up, the first time since ive been here in 3 years
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on July 24, 2009, 20:34 PM
In the 40's in the Els Ports which certainly does not help the forest fire situation.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Maria on September 14, 2009, 23:13 PM
We have our first snows of the season here in the Sierra Nevada  :dancing:
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on September 15, 2009, 10:03 AM
Hi Maria,

I'm not there but I believe it snowed last night in the Pyrenees. Here in Tarragona it's raining for the first time since I don't know when (the dogs are soaked and reeeeeally grumpy about it!) - and there has been serious flooding in and around Barcelona - a typical September coming up to the equinox! :dancing:

Regs

Simon
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on September 15, 2009, 10:09 AM
Hi All
Very cold wind last night in León, this morning overcast and 11 degs. threatening rain later this week, if it does it will be the first since June
regards
Dave
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on September 15, 2009, 11:24 AM
Greetings All,
Thanks for update.
Here in Madrid, as of even date, your correspondent left the house at 8 a.m. in short sleeves and it was decidedly chilly. Not complaining, mind you. Yours truly prefers a nip in the air. Now, at 11.30, it is still chilly in the shade but the clear blue skies and blazing sun will no doubt bring out the sweat on people's brows later in the day. Occasional light gusts of wind coming in through the window mean that I'm using my teacup and whatever else I have to hand as paperwights.

As is my wont, I never pay attention to the weather forecast in micro-terms, so have no idea what the coming days will bring, but it was supposed to rain heavily here a couple of days ago and all we got was a light shower, which didn't even wet the pavements.

All-in-all-a-pleasant-autumnish-day-in-the-capital regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on September 15, 2009, 11:29 AM
Capital - of where?

Simon  :technodevil:
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on September 15, 2009, 12:12 PM
Nice one, Simon - I stand corrected! :clapping:

Mind you, talking about "capitality", I seem to remember that envy was one of the capital sins... :technodevil:
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on September 15, 2009, 12:14 PM
You mean like pride  :dancing:
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on September 15, 2009, 12:32 PM
It's raining, it's pouring, the old man...* (I see someone's b-day is just around the corner - celebrating it indoors 'cos of the rain, are we?)  :technodevil:

*Sp. anyone?

You Catalans can rightly be proud of yer national cuisine, yer national culture, yer national soccer team, but when it comes to clear blue skies - de Madrid al cielo...**:dancing:

**Not quite true: for those of you who wish to experience the most amazing blue sky, there's only one place to be: Port Lligat (this Wikipedia pic doesn't do it justice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Lligat)).
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on September 15, 2009, 12:37 PM
PS. For the benefit of those of you who are new to this 'ere great iberiantureforum, the above exchange is the nearest we get to flaming (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaming_(Internet)) in our neck of the woods.  :angel:

And even that's pushing the limits - we only get away with it when the admins are changing nappies or wolf-watching  :dancing:

Respectful regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on September 15, 2009, 12:45 PM
Actually slugging my way through an 'orrible translation (guidelines for freebies grant applications - or should that be gridlines >:D). The bg day will be a rather low-key affar as I've already opened my present (http://www.bmbikes.org.uk/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=9859).

Not sue about what rhymes with "achú" but how about this (http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=515954) for a challenge fun and games!

Cheers from a more than slightly saddle-sore, Sp.?) Simes  :dancing:

PS your 'flaming' post came thru' while I was writing this, so I think I'd better say TTFN for now and go down to Carrefour - no birthday treat for me!
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on September 15, 2009, 14:23 PM
Greetings Simon,
Lucky OLD you!  :technodevil:
But slightly surprised at choice of bike - but s'pose at your age you need that sturdy, reliable German-built steed. Or is that the model that the GC use?
So Mrs Klaus is also an ex- biker, is she?
Perfick-biking-weather-here-in-Madrid regs.,
Technopat

PS.
Checking up on that "saddle-sore", but the only ones I/or others can come up with are too earthy for your eyes/ears!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Petrea on September 15, 2009, 15:29 PM
Yeaaah! Raining cats and dogs - first time since April 26!  :clapping:  :clapping:  :clapping:
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on September 15, 2009, 18:17 PM
Yeah Petrea - back on form topic - otherwise the thye mice will play . . . .

 :technodevil:
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on September 15, 2009, 21:16 PM
Congratulations Petrea on your rain.  It's very welcome in BCN too - the first real rain since the start of July, precisely when the Tour de France came to the city.  The plan to publicise the Costa Brava backfired - the idea that the cyclists would have an enticing blue sea in the background came to nothing because all you could see was grey clouds.  And cyclists skidding all over the place once they entered the city.  It's been hot and sunny ever since.  Collserola looked so dusty in places last weekend I wanted to bring up a duster to clean off the leaves!  Hope this continues for a while.
(ps. Simon, will the wolves be riding in a side-car?)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on September 16, 2009, 09:01 AM
Well I have woken to blue skies this morning although the air has a bit of a chill in it.
We didn't get the rain here yesterday but although the forecast changes almost by the hour it is expected to arrive tomorrow.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on September 16, 2009, 09:11 AM
Hi Tony,

That's good to hear, we're off for a day out near Els Ports just as soon as I've shaved, showered and s***!

Might have second thoughts about the shower (http://www.iberianatureforum.com/index.php/topic,2580.msg21198.html#msg21198) though  :technodevil:

Regs

Simon
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lisa on September 16, 2009, 10:18 AM
Stormy weather here too, started and continued last night, very apt for back to school  :-X A break in the clouds this morning revealed snow at @ 1,200m. Even though summer didn't really start until mid-August, this is the first real rain we've seen for a long time.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Maria on September 16, 2009, 17:05 PM
Yeah lovin the snow  :dancing:
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on September 16, 2009, 17:39 PM
Hi All
Well the wind is still very cold, coming from the direction of Lisa´s snow, but the forecast rain was a joke, I have seen heavier dews in England.
regards
Dave
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on September 16, 2009, 18:13 PM
Rainy, overcast 'n' chilly greetings from Madrid.

Tonight's-unofficial-meet-up-of-a-couple-of-members-of-the-Madrid-Fraction-will-bring-the-sunshine-back :dancing:
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on September 17, 2009, 11:02 AM
Sun here again today and still warm enough not to need my clothes.  Fantastic.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on September 17, 2009, 11:07 AM
Hi Tone,

Thanks for yesterday's report from Els Ports, it really came in handy (http://www.iberianatureforum.com/index.php/topic,2644.msg21233.html#new)!

To reciprocate a little; from my vantage point overlooking the Med. I can see what we've all got coming to us later on this afternoon - keep yer brolly handy! Not necessarily in your case, I suppose, but at least be ready to haul the washing in :dancing:

Regs

Simon
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on September 17, 2009, 16:45 PM
Update from cold wet miserable Madrid - quite Londonish & autumnish, in fact. Is summer over already?

Technopat - no friolero (En. anyone?) - has been working indoors all day with tracksuit top & bottom on. And socks!

Start-downing-that-vitamin-C regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on September 17, 2009, 17:45 PM
Thus far the promised tempestes seem to have passed us by - a common occurrence here when the weather comes from the sea. But there are some spectacular cumulo nimbus over the Prades mountains, just inland, which I guess will be repeated, if not amplifies down in Els Ports, where I imagine Tony is reinventing the phrase 'Brass monkeys' with a vengeance >:D

Regs

Simon (still in sandals - just!)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on September 18, 2009, 09:07 AM
Terrific thunderstorm last night for a couple of hours, but have woken again to blue skies.
Must have been loads of muck in the rain as the pool and the fountains are all cloudy.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on September 18, 2009, 10:47 AM
Hi Tony,

According to TV3 this morning you had 79 litres of rain at Els Ports! Not so much here though; as is often the case the clouds pass over the City of Tarragona and deluge nearby Reus as they rise up over the Sierra de Prades - sad news for Els Enganxats  :technodevil:

Meanwhile, on a more serious note, I guess we ought to spare a moment's reflection for the three killed in Valencia and Murcia during last nght's storm, and the one person still missing in Jaen from Tuesday. Spain really does have a wicked climate when you come to think of it.

Regs

Simon
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on September 18, 2009, 12:31 PM
Spaniards have always suffered hardships: rugged terrain, harsh, treacherous climate and rulers - builds character, I suppose - noidea icon -

Back-on-topic,-bright-blues-skies-here-in-Madrid,-bit-windy-and-a-definite-nip-in-the-air-(Sp.-anyone?) regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on September 18, 2009, 17:54 PM
Further update from cold, wet 'n' miserable Madrid...

I-blames-the-govermnent-I-do regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on September 18, 2009, 18:38 PM
Hi TP
Well a bit showery and cool here, but the Tapas make up for it  :dancing: today callos (and not de Bacalao) delicious  :)
Regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on September 18, 2009, 21:28 PM
Well, the "wettest" place in Spain is windy and drippy but not getting the rain other parts seem to be having... pretty soon 2 million websites will have to update their Grazalema weather page due to global weather changes... (of course ours is always up to date with the current forecast from El Tiempo...... :)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on September 18, 2009, 22:08 PM
Evenin' all,


Re " nip in the air" well, hace bastante fresco just doesn't seem to work does it! But it's not quite brass monkeys yet (irregular plural if ever I saw one  >:D)

By-the-by - yes, I know you're thinking that I've been reading too much of the Grossmiths (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diary_of_a_Nobody) lately! (in fact I haven't, actually) - what's happened to the emoticons lately, is it just me or are they not appearing on everyone's browsers? (I guess Nick would be glad to see the back of them (growling, happy dragon!)

Regs

Simon
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Bob M on September 18, 2009, 22:32 PM
It's certainly pouring it down here in the Basque country.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on September 19, 2009, 08:36 AM
Yesterday's beautiful morning turned over cast yesterday but no rain.  Woken to blue but cloudy skies this morning.  Hope the weather stays like that as I have to go up to Barcelona this morning and I don't want to be trudging around in the wet.
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on September 29, 2009, 10:20 AM
Greetings All,
As of even date, grey clouds, chilly and pretty miserable all-round here in sunny Madrid - not helped by the fact that the whole place is in/under works. If anyone wants to sabotage that Olympic bid - not that it has the slightest chance anyway -, just show the members of the IOC a short video of a walk/drive around Madrid... >:(

Looks-like-rain-but-probably-won't-(famous-last-words-[Sp.-anyone?]) regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Maria on September 29, 2009, 11:25 AM
After 3 days of not much rain today is back to its old self of bright blue sunny skies.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on September 29, 2009, 21:16 PM
At this very moment it is p---ing down and the same is forecast for tomorrow when I have to do a long trip which cannot be cancelled.
Oh well, that's the way it goes !!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on September 30, 2009, 12:16 PM
Top o' the mornin' to you all

Catalonia TV's main weather forcast today said that Alicante has had the heaviest monthly rainfall in about 160 years - and it's still only September 30!

Drive carefully Tony 8)

Simes
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on September 30, 2009, 13:45 PM
Hi All
It rained in León this morning, at least 15 spots, it is now sunny and fine, really looking forward to a decent tormenta, the last rain was early June.
regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on September 30, 2009, 16:46 PM
Hi Dave,

I think I'm going to hae to move to Leon: first yuo have all the free tapas you want, now you get to have fifteen drops of rain, whereas all we get here is quatre gotes!  8)

Simon
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on September 30, 2009, 19:20 PM
Well my trip has come and gone, driving all day, and not a spot of rain despite the forecast.
And apparently, according to 'er indoors there has not been any in the Els Ports either.
Mind you there was a fantastic storm last night with loads of rain and not a drop came in which means that I may have solved the leaky bit of roof.   :clapping:
Tony
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: stephanie on September 30, 2009, 20:51 PM
Hi             :sign:            We have had some great for garden "pitter patter" stuff, still sunny in between and dropping to about 17 degs by night.
     Today was 27 degs high , we are protected by our giant rock. Heard thunder today but only got a light shower.
 Bee eaters have gone now but the Blue Rock thrush and the Eagle Owl are still here.
 I am a proud grandma now and am flying to UK tomorrow to check out the weather there.  :)
                                      Steph
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on October 01, 2009, 08:49 AM
TV pictures of the floods in Granada with houses and streets flooded...... Where else is getting these big storms? I know its not Grazalema.......... Just a few showers here but it is a lot cooler now down to 16 at night and 20's during the daytime
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Maria on October 01, 2009, 10:43 AM
How strange that you have seen floods in Granada, we didnt get a drop of rain in Lanjaron yesterday, blue skys all day, although we did hear storms and see the thunder clouds and were hoping it would head our way but it was not to be. We are having high humidity with highs of 25ish and lows of 16ish! Alot of snow has fallen on the high Sierra Nevada these past few days, yeah roll on the winter  :dancing:
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Maria on October 01, 2009, 22:47 PM
Thought I would post this picture to show you what the West face of Mulhacen looked like on Sunday, full on winter conditions were met! (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3460/3971430954_176eff908f.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on October 02, 2009, 07:09 AM
Brilliant Maria, this is what we want - but is this a preage for the winter to come  :dancing:

Simon
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Maria on October 02, 2009, 10:03 AM
Yeah lets hope so  :dancing:
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on October 02, 2009, 10:16 AM
You're a Sadist*, that's what you are  :technodevil:

* Note the capital Prof. T!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: glennie on October 18, 2009, 19:24 PM
Up in the Sierra today nr. Buitrago.

Countryside in a dreadful state for lack of rain. Can't remember it looking so bad. Not really a nice place to be at the moment.  :'(

Whatever happened to the colour green?

Hope we actually get some autumn soon, instead of more and more summer.

Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on October 18, 2009, 21:36 PM
Grazalema too, desperate for some rain..... had to start watering the veggie plot again.... Blue skies and really warm today at 30 degrees... Chilly at night though and a little bit of dew starting to appear in the early morning.....

Big rain forecast for Tuesday......
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Bob M on October 19, 2009, 08:36 AM
It's bloody cold here. Frost in the mornings at the moment.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: glennie on October 19, 2009, 22:50 PM
Cooling now here too. Rain should arrive tomorrow and countryside will perk up.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: ladena on October 20, 2009, 00:48 AM
And the weather report from the Ebro Valley...

Night-time temps suddenly dropped about a week ago and max day-time temps dropped from 28-30 degrees to around 22. Gloves and scarf required this am for early morning dog-walk- a chilly 5 degrees. Rain /thunderstorms predicted in next couple of days.

Ahhh...in a few weeks I'll be wishing as always for insulated walls, double glazing and carpets! Good thing the winters are short!

Keep warm all!

Dena
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on October 20, 2009, 09:07 AM
Just wait for the winter winds coming down the Ebro Valley especially around March Dena.

Sitting huddled around the log fire wondering if you have everything securely bolted or tied down and what was that you heard banging around that might decide to take off is a regular activity that makes you wonder why on earth you moved out.

Then Spring arrives and you know.


We had thought about taking a guest up Mont Caro during the next couple of days but as Dena has reported I doubt if that will now be possible.  Shame, such a lovely view of the Delta from the top.
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on October 21, 2009, 01:38 AM
Amazing, G!  :clapping: How did you manage that one? Rain dances? Human sacrifices? :angel:

Torrential rain - by Madrid standards - this eveing - albeit for a short while. At time of writing, streets dry again. Tomorrow/today-more?

Tony, yer
Quote
securely bolted or tied down
suggests that you currently live on some sort of floating vessel. I was aware that the Ebro does have a tendency to burst its banks, but despondency is hardly the way to go. And as for those log fires... just last night we roasted this autumn's first batch of supermarket-bought chestnuts - in the oven. Not quite the stuff of me childhood memories... Anyways, hope you're following Dena's lead and have got yer gloves & scarf out and on - if nothing else. :angel:

Here's María, Simon & G rooting for winter and the end of the seemingly endless summer while Tony longs for spring and Dena remarks on the fortunate shortness of the aforementioned winters.

Nunca-llueve-a-gusto-de-todos-(En-anyone?) regs.,
Technopat

PS.
And as for Bob getting away with the use of big bad words on this 'ere family forum - only possible explanation is that Our Great and Wise iberianatureforum Admin down in Grazalema has gone an' become a big softy now that he's gone an' gotten hisself a Sam... makes me wonder what I might get away with over the coming autumn and winter months :technodevil:
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on October 21, 2009, 10:47 AM
Wot, winter already? Well, there are worse things that words to eat: I regretted being so eager for the colder weather last week as I got caught out on my motorbike by the bitter north wind that crossed the Pyrenees. As I haven't yet bought proper winter gear (expensive stuff!) I well and truly froze while catching up with Mrs S in the car. Fortunately, our rendez-vous was in one of our regular café's, whose charming proprietress kindly massaged the most affected parts* back to life  8)

But is it really winter? No way - spectacular rainfall and warm southwesterlies brought serious thunder here (Tarragona) last night and this morning. Meanwhile I had one of the 'magic' moments last evening as my train stalled in a flooded station (Alcover, near Reus) at around 5.00pm:

There was a gang of builders taking shelter under the canopy while the platform they were apparently rebuilding was completely flooded by runoff from the street beyond. After a good deal of shoulder shrugging, last-drag-on-fag toking, foot stamping and finally a bit of arm waving they evidently decided to call it a day. Trouble was, the ubiquitous white van was parked out on the street, i.e. on the far side of the cataract. Having carefully checked for witnesses, oblivious of a train full of passengers right alongside, the two elder guys, the genuine palètas I suppose, rode dry-shod, piggy-back style, across the deluge, courtesy of the poor downtrodden peóns!

Regs

Simon

* my hands you naughty, naughty boys!  :technodevil:
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Bob M on October 21, 2009, 19:04 PM
I'm going to make a forecast - but not a weather one.

Given that the majority of the people on the forum are expat Brits and the thread is "what is the weather doing" - I forecast that in time this will become the longest thread on the site.

 :biggrin:

Bob
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on October 21, 2009, 19:40 PM
whose charming proprietress kindly massaged the most affected parts* back to life  8)

You lucky chap.

Please supply full details and address immediately.

Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on October 22, 2009, 09:25 AM
Greetings All,
Update on Madrid:
Clear, bright blue skies - effing cold - b***** windy.

Blue skies are a surprise 'cos yestereday was one of the most blustery, greyest and wettest days that I can remember and it was p-ing* down all night too! Streets totally dry right now 'cos of the wind.

*That's p for pour

Brought-back-fond-memories-of-LOG regs.
Technopat,

Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on October 22, 2009, 09:56 AM
G' mornin' all,

I thought you wanted all the rain Capitano T! But you let a few million litres escape to come all the way here to Tarragona this morning - and the wind to follow so I'm told by Francesc Mauri*, whose opion I value! He also tells us here to espect to wear mànigues de camisa (http://www.enciclopedia.cat/fitxa_v2.jsp?NDCHEC=0192763&BATE=anar%20en%20m%E0nigues%20de%20camisa) this weekend, which will make a nice change! I'll have to pop round to the Bar **** to see what M****** is wearing to liven up her customers  >:D

Regs

Simon

* OK, I'll swop you Francesc if you send Mònica López (http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%B2nica_L%C3%B3pez) back to TV3!

PS sorry Tony, rules of confidentiality, etc. mean I have to keep certain things secret, even from you!

PPS yer right there Bob. The way we're going we'll make history, unless a certain moderator wakes up!
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on October 22, 2009, 17:18 PM
Greetings Simon,
If the wind that's blowing here is anything to go by, the one that's heading in your direction will be summat. Talk about holding on to yer hollyhocks! Carries a nip or two, too.

Just read over my previous posting, and can't imagine where on earth you got the idea that I was complaining 'bout rain from. As far as I'm concerned, the more the merrier. Good for the crops, they say. And the 'shrooms.

Chilly wind factor high, looming clouds, but no rain today... so far.

Looking-forward-to-electric-oven-roasted-chestnuts-tonight regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on October 22, 2009, 20:44 PM
Yep,

All the dread previsions were right - a howling wind followed within an hour of the rain stopping; serious flooding, traffic chaos in the Metropolis, etc. I'm glad I've been holed up in my study all day, tee hee, inventing new words (http://www.iberianatureforum.com/index.php?topic=2714.new;topicseen#new) being par for the course  :booklook:

Regs

Simon
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on November 06, 2009, 10:22 AM
Greetings All,
Just a quick update for those of you with fond memories :technodevil: of blazing heat in Madrid in summer: definite nip in the air - icy winds over the last couple of days and, as in much of the north of the Ib. Pen., heavy snowfall in the mountains north of Madrid.

Survival-of-the-fittest=woollen-scarves regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on November 06, 2009, 16:25 PM
Hi Teps et al,

We drobve up via the Pla d'Urgell on Wednesday - more or less sideways in the howling gale - glad I wasn't on the bike! :technodevil:

Today we've just been to Andorra to buy cold weather clobber for riding the aformentioned contraption, now I look like a Michelin man in black!  :dancing:

Regs

Simon
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Bob M on November 06, 2009, 22:56 PM
Basque country - still raining.  Probably won't stop until February - March now.  At least that's what happened last year.

Bob
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on November 07, 2009, 06:49 AM
Is it cold up north?... Wind changed direction yesterday and I had to put my flip flops away and put a jumper on!  Got some drizzle as well..... :)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: glennie on November 07, 2009, 09:09 AM
Somewhat chillier in Madrid, but still no rain, and don't think there will be any to speak of. Not in the capital at least.

To get very windy everywhere, so chill factor will come into play.

Did I hear something about Segovia almost running out of water last week?
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on November 07, 2009, 09:38 AM
Hi All
Today windy and cold in León, snow visible on the peaks , but it is sunny  8)
Regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Bob M on November 07, 2009, 10:23 AM
Is it cold up north?

It was about 9 centigrade this morning, in fact it was colder a couple of weeks ago when we had some mild frosts.  It's the rain - it just keeps coming.

Bob
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on November 08, 2009, 08:44 AM
Cold and very windy bringing down the garden screening yet again !!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on November 09, 2009, 11:54 AM
Mornin' all,

Very wintry here in the Pyrenees, with high winds blowing snow over from the north face, where is more properly belongs  >:D

Minimum down to one below last night but this morning it's lovely, sunny and decidedly warmer. So I'm off out on my bike again soon  :clapping:.

Talking of wind chill, Glennie, some very sad news on the telly  (http://www.3cat24.cat/noticia/418059/catalunya/Els-excursionistes-perduts-al-Puigmal-van-haver-de-fer-front-a-la-neu-el-vent-i-temperatures-de--4-graus)this morning: a party of mountain walkers got lost on Puig Mal in the Ripolles region and suffered wind chill of up to -25, two died and the remaining three are in hospital with hypothermia and frostbite.

This has raised the thorny issue of whether excursionists of all stripes should be held responsible for the cost/risks of thier rescue if they knowingly go out in unsafe conditions. Any thoughts from the august members of this 'ere Forum?

Regs

Simon
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Maria on November 09, 2009, 12:40 PM
Very windy here yesterday, been clearing up all morning  ::) but nice and sunny today. More wind forecast for today, tomorrow and later in the week still no sign of rain/snow  >:(

Tragic news about the group of people on Puig Mal and yes the issue does have to be raised about 1) if they should have been out knowing the bad weather was there or due to come in. Would you really want to be out in bad conditions when you can get so many good days, its not like Britain! 2) Should they pay for rescue.

In the Sierra Nevada, people are able to get a bus to a height of 2700m to walk up Mulhacen, ok so its in the summer, we get some of our most violent storms in the summer in the mountains, that come from no where. Does the bus company check people have the correct clothing etc, No it does not. We have met people in shorts, t'shirts, sandles with fashion packs, asking which one is Mulhacen  :o. The mountains are always a dangerous place and deserve a lot of respect, should any of these people get hurt, who would be held responsible for them?

EPN wrote an article on paying for rescue (http://www.sierra-nevada-news.com/2009/10/paying-rescue-sierra-nevada-negligence/) as it came into effect in Spain in October 2009. Seems there are a few grey areas  :noidea:
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on November 12, 2009, 09:36 AM
Mornin' all, and what a lovely morning it is too!

The fine weather is here, at least in Catalonia, (sorry Bob!) after being long in the foretelling. During the last week I've kept hearing reference to St Marti's day, November 11th, and wondered if it was a Catalan version of the English St Swithen's proverb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Swithen#Proverb):

    "St Swithun's day if thou dost rain
    For forty days it will remain
    St Swithun's day if thou be fair
    For forty days 'twill rain no more
"

But I was wrong, the reference is to the L'estiuet de Sant Martí, a short period of fine weather around this time. Here's the legend:

Quote
"Martí, quan encara no era sant, ni tampoc bisbe de Tours, feia de militar a l'exèrcit romà. En una ocasió, un dia de novembre, anava a lluitar contra els bàrbars, per un camí on la neu i el fred eren cada cop més intensos. A mig revolt, va sentir la veu d'un captaire que demanava auxili. Martí no ho va dubtar en absolut i va compartir el que duia amb el pobre. Fins i tot, amb l'espasa va partir la capa per la meitat i li va donar una part al mendicaire. Gràcies a aquell gest, el fred i la neu es van retirar. Segons aquesta llegenda, és per això que existeix l'estiuet de Sant Martí."

Roughly: Marti (Catalonia's patron saint before St George arrived on the scene) was neither a saint nor a bishop but a Roman soldier. On one occasion during November he was on the trail to fight the barbarians when it came on to snow and get really cold. He heard a beggar asking for help. He had no doubt that the call was genuine began to share his rations with the wretch. Ultimately, he shared half of all he had the mendicaire*, Thanks to this gesture the cold and the snow went away. According to the legend, this explains the 'Little Summer of Saint Martin'.

So that explains it then!

Regs

Simon

* the word 'mendicaire' doesn't appear in the Catalan Encycopedia, nor the offcial dictionary, nor in the Catalan Wikipedia, nor in a published lexicon of Catalan meteriological terms (http://www.infomet.fcr.es/assaig/)  :banghead: but I guess it must be a modification of Mendicant, the monkish cult!
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on November 12, 2009, 16:52 PM
Grretings All,
Here in Madrid we they refer to the Veranillo de San Miguel (29 September), and what in castellano would be San Martín (el 11 November).

In other parts of the country there are similar phenomena: Veranillo de los Arcángeles (http://www.meteored.com/ram/1181/refranero-climtico-del-mes-de-septiembre/) or Veranillo del Membrillo (http://www.eldiadecordoba.es/article/cordoba/541259/veranillo/membrillo/toca/fondo.html).

Wikipedia has a particularly useful article on this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_summer#Origins

But don't let all that wonderful sunshine lull you into a sense of false s.

Hasta-el-cuarenta-de-mayo... regs.,
Technopat

Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on November 12, 2009, 19:14 PM
Well cor blimey Technopat, I always thought Indian Summer was summit (sic) to do with the last barrel of IPA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India_Pale_Ale) running out! Now you'll be calling me a filest, a phillisti, a llistiphi, oh well all right, an uncultured slob!

Regs

Simon
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Maria on November 13, 2009, 15:42 PM
Been a beautiful spring type day here today in Lanjaron sunny and 22C  :dancing: Not looking like its going to snow for a while tho  :'(
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Maria on November 17, 2009, 10:54 AM
Anyone else getting unusally warm weather? We have been reaching 26C/27C most days with over night temps only dropping to 18C  :noidea:
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on November 17, 2009, 11:43 AM
Yes, this year's Veranillo de Sant Marti is a scorcher!  Yesterday midday was almost too hot to be in the sun.  Today's cooler as a result of a huge tidal wave of sea mist that has rolled towards the coast (I imagine it was triggered by the heat)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on November 18, 2009, 08:09 AM
Brilliant image Lucy, as ever! You should send some to TV3's weather reports or, perhaps better still for the rest of the Forummers, to 'our' Mònica Lopéz at TVE!

Meanwhile, still scorcio here  >:D and but for the persistent haze has marred much of the week. But we've been making hay whilst the sun shines and walking in the rapidly melting snow near the Port de Bonaigüa on Sunday and the length of the Montsec d'Ares on Monday - a brilliant day!

No biking for me over the weekend as we had a friend to stay (quite a contrast from her usual Sunday strides in Norfolk!), but the forecast is for another week of this so I'll taking a POETS day on Friday and will go for some long rides then - just don't tell the bank manager!

Simon
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Technopat on November 18, 2009, 09:51 AM
Greetings All,
Yours truly has just made the most embarrassing amazing discovery: by taking shortcuts and always clicking on View the most recent posts on the forum (http://www.iberianatureforum.com/index.php?topic=966.msg22119#msg22119) I've actually been missing out on loads of photos y'all have posted over the years, :banghead: i.e. I only go to the thread when I see that there is a specific mention of 'shrooms pics.

A case in point is Lucy's great "tidal wave of sea mist" which I'd've missed if Simon hadn't expressly mentioned it in his posting, and Simon's pics on the following post which I only saw 'cos he inadvertently tipped me off to look at Lucy's...

Live-and-learn regs.,
Technopat

PS.
Chilly but sunny here

P*S.
Simon, have you seen Mònica's bombo (En. anyone?) recently?
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on November 18, 2009, 18:36 PM
So it's confirmed then - it wasn't me!  :technodevil:*

Simon

* but wishful thinking . . .  :angel:
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Spanish Footsteps on November 18, 2009, 22:38 PM
Hello everyone

Its been a looong time since ive last been on, I believe Clive and Sue have a new addition, so I would like to congratulate them on that, hope all is well with the three of you.

The weather in Soria has been surprisingly mild, I say surprisingly as we havent had a frost nor any substantial rain.  That hasnt stopped the fungi from coming up, if you know where to look.

Looks like the forecast for the next week is tops of 16 and lows of 6 degrees.

We have been enjoying our satelite TV, BBC's Autumn Watch... excellent.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: nick on November 19, 2009, 18:04 PM
Nice to see you back Alfredo
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Sue on November 19, 2009, 22:36 PM
Light showers only for the 'wettest place in Spain' today  ::)
Thanks Alfredo - we are all doing well here, good to hear from you again,
and happy fungi hunting  :)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on November 26, 2009, 09:53 AM
Mornin' all,

This is a sort of a 'Stop Press*': the fog that is characteristic here in Catalonia during periods of high pressure. It is due to temperature inversion, i.e, the valey floors remain colder (about 5-10º in my area) than the upper altitudes. The resulting freezing fog makes life miserable for the inhabitants of the townships while those of us who live in the mountaintop village bask in glorious sunshine. :dancing:

The pictures are rare ones for me as my village faces into the morning sun. Last Tuesday, however, I had to brave the fog on my bike as I planned a trip over the eastern sector of the Serra de Montsec - fotunateley I was able to stop for a coffee and an amazingly high dose chocolate croissant along the way!

Regs

Simon

* it's 'Stop Press' as the warm front that is arriving today will sweep it all away!
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on November 26, 2009, 12:47 PM
Greetings Simon 'n' All,
Thanks for that - beautiful plumage (Fog 2 pic).

Cold and drizzly in sunny Madrid.
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on November 26, 2009, 17:18 PM
Well, it's restin' isn't it!

Meanwhile we had a new one on today's weather report from TV3, courtesy of Fransesc Mauri, Per San Andreu; neu, plou, o bé, fred molt greu!

'For Saint Andrew (i.e. next Monday!), snow, rain or grave cold!' Doesn't sound so well in English does it!  >:D

Simes
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on November 27, 2009, 09:57 AM
Hi Simon, I like the way your shining new steed sneaked into the weather board  8)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on November 27, 2009, 10:17 AM
Yeah, these bloomin' parrots* get everywhere don't they!  >:D

Simon

* for those Forumites younger, or better, less stupid, that Technopat and I, here's what we've been ranting on about (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npjOSLCR2hE)!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on November 29, 2009, 14:01 PM
But the shining banana has no sidecar! The passenger will get wet when it rains.... :)

It is raining in Grazalema and we are already over 2000mm this year with October, November and December still to add to the recorded amount.....

Some weather info from the wettest place in Spain :)
http://www.grazalemaguide.com/nature-news/34-general-nature/179-weather-in-grazalema.html
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: ladena on December 14, 2009, 13:45 PM
Who has snow today?
Drove to Tarragona and back late yesterday afternoon through sleet and there was a good covering of snow on Montsant and Serra de Llaberia. This morning quite heavy snow showers here in the Ebro Valley. There are some schools and roads closed. This blog in Catalan but the pics are multilingual! http://lamarfanta.blogspot.com
Read post on Twitter saying it was also snowing in Madrid.
How's everyone doing?

Dena
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on December 14, 2009, 14:02 PM
Sorry folks, with all the snow whirling around the Iberian peninsular - that is everywhere except where yours truly is (city of Tarragona) and his missus (the Pyrenees for heaven's sake!) I couldn't resist this memory of last January's offering:

The difference in our two dogs' personalities, and their attitude to the white stuff, could not be more apparent!  :dancing:

Cheers

Simon

Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on December 15, 2009, 09:12 AM
Looking out of my garden at the Els Ports they are just a mass of white.  Haven't seen them like that before.  Must go and light the log-burner !!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on December 15, 2009, 09:55 AM
Mornin' happy campers*

You're only just thinking of lighting your stove Tony**, you'll be telling us you've got some togs on next. You brave, hardy fellow you!  :santa_afro:

Cheers

(Centrally heated) Simon  :angel:

* with especial reference to Elvina - if she's still with us!

** as I write this (Tuesday Dec. 15 @ 10.00 am) the temperature in Horta de Sant Juan, which I guess is the nearest weather station (http://www.meteocat.com/mediamb_xemec/servmet/marcs/marc_e_temps.html) to our Tone, is just clambering above -1ºC
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Maria on December 15, 2009, 10:11 AM
Its all white here to in Lanjaron to, but not the white fluffy stuff just the hard cold frost. Temp is at 0C at the mo as I type, brrrrr centrally heated homes, what a nice memory.

Love the pics of Lucky and Streak, Lucky looks as barmy as Khumbu in the snow.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on December 15, 2009, 11:06 AM
Hi Maria, et al,

Yep, Lucky is just as daft as your Kumbu, be it snow, surf, turf (and turds  >:D) she'll go bananas over just about everything!

Ol' Streaky, aka sneakysnugglepoohs, despite his big hairy masculine chest, is just a big girl's blose in the cold - if you'll forgive me the phrase! All he wants is his bed. Mind you, I can sympahtise with him. Have you seen the forecast for the weekend - horrible cold wet rain, just like West Lothian! - so Mrs S (born RIE but raised in South Queensferry) has just decided that she will come down here for the weekend in our lovely warm car, rather than me go up there in the slow cold damp dismal dreary train - Huzzah :dancing:

Cheers

Simon*

* still smiling until I see the heating bill!

Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on December 17, 2009, 11:53 AM
Hi All
Snowed yesterday in León Capital, continuing this morning, so far 34 cm. I will go out and build a snowman later  :dancing: however getting to the Gregorian carol singing this evening may be a little more difficult, unless they clear the footpaths.
Regards
Dave  :santa_afro:
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on December 17, 2009, 12:35 PM
Nice one Dave - especially the Gregorian music, which I love. I expect you'll have heard of the Jan Garbarek's projects with the Hillaird Ensemble. I got the 'Officium' CD pretty much hot off the press, courtesy of a saxophonist friend of mine. It's pretty much old hat now and I haven't played it for ages until you reminded me just now. Here's a snippet from Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D4LtzZACek) for all of our other readers - the video's pretty topical too, especially the iceburg with the hole in the middle - ¿the original Polo?  :santa_afro:

Back onto the weather  >:D ,it didn't snow here in Tarragona city, nor in our bit of the Pyrenees, but just inland it came down in buckets (the spades come in handy later!). I felt for poor Elvis, spinster* of this Forum, who, as she has already mentioned elsewhere (http://www.iberianatureforum.com/index.php?topic=2305.0), is living in a caravan just inland of here and are seriously snowed in - no electricity, etc. The last I heard of her was a rather plaintive text on Monday evening asking me what was in store for them next! So I think we should all keep a solidarity cauldron of hot broth on the go just in case the waifs wash up on our collective doorsteps one frosty night  :santa_grin:

Tarragona endured a low of exactly 0º yesterday, seriously horrid for around here, but today it feels even colder due to the damp wind - what a sad bunch us coast dwellers are!

Cheers

Simon

* That's a joke Elvina 8)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on December 17, 2009, 19:58 PM
Wow, that's an impressive amount of snow Dave, just on your terrace!  have you been feeding the birds?

Need to put gloves on before typing any more.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: nick on December 17, 2009, 20:07 PM
I can't remember the last time I felt so cold in Barcelona.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on December 26, 2009, 11:46 AM
A very wet Christmas in Grazalema with record breaking rainfall.......we have had no electricity since Wednesaday (Back on for the afternoon of Christmas day)... due to the heavy rainfall! It seems that the drought is over as we have water cascades tumbling through all of the fields around us and the river broke its banks and has been busy re-arranging our driveway!

Sam enjoyed testing out the buggy in the waterfall  :santa_grin:
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: mick on December 27, 2009, 12:13 PM
Hi All.

We have been the same near Loja, Granada Province. All the rain that falls on the Vega de Granada comes past out local town of Huetor Tajar. The Rio Genil has burst its banks and has flooded hundreds of fields and the main road to the motorway, which means that the locals have a long detour to get any where. The barranco at the rear of our house, which is usually dry, has been running at about 67ft deep and the road has been a muddy river for a few days now. So all in all it’s wet. There are some photographs of Huetor Tajar (by the Sea) on the blog below.

Mick.

Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Vicente Malagon on December 28, 2009, 23:06 PM
Hi All,

I have enclosed some pictures concerning the latest rains in a special report about the floodings in the Ciudad Real province. In this moment we have two rivers overflowed: the Jabalon, running to Extremadura (it's a tributary of the Guadiana river), and the Fresneda river. The last one has destroyed several bridges in Sierra Morena, and it's running violently to Andalucia (this river is also known as Jandula, a tributary of the Guadalquivir). Several reservoirs of Sierra Morena are overflowed or very close (Montoro, Fresneda and Jandula reservoirs), so we can expect many problems in the next few days in the north of Andalucia. You can find the pics in the following link: http://www.naturaindomita.com/28-12-09-imagenes-de-las-ultimas-riadas-en-ciudad-real/771

Vicente.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on December 29, 2009, 10:00 AM
Thanks for all those graphic photos.  Clive, looks like you might need a boat.  Up in the north east there's been lots of rain too, but since the fronts have been Atlantic ones, they lose alot of their destructive energy before getting here. But the series of fronts seems endless, making the weather schizophrenic - one day rain, one day sun.  Very very mild today, before the next cold front reaches us.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: elmussol on January 01, 2010, 22:00 PM
You're only just thinking of lighting your stove Tony**, you'll be telling us you've got some togs on next. You brave, hardy fellow you!  :santa_afro:

Just down the road from Tony we've had the estufe de leña (not the estufe de madera, muy grande I asked for in the ferreteria (which is funny on more than one level if you have any barrio)) on the go since mid October.

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* with especial reference to Elvina - if she's still with us!

Seconded. We did our first winter on the finca in tents.

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** as I write this (Tuesday Dec. 15 @ 10.00 am) the temperature in Horta de Sant Juan, which I guess is the nearest weather station (http://www.meteocat.com/mediamb_xemec/servmet/marcs/marc_e_temps.html) to our Tone, is just clambering above -1ºC

Incidently for Tony and us folks at Els Mussols, the actual nearest station is at Aldover (U7), with the PN dels Ports station (X5) near Roquetes a useful second. There are a whole range of hills between us and Horta, so the stations this side of the hills provide better data for us. The whole Meteocat site is pretty spiffy and the archived data is priceless.

For weather forecasts however I find El Tiempo (http://en.eltiempo.es/) more useful, especially the wind data. This is my favourite view of Xerta's weather (http://en.eltiempo.es/xerta.html?v=grafico).

Wind and sun today, so lots of leccy :-)

pault
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on January 02, 2010, 09:13 AM
Echoing Paul a nice day here in the Els Ports.
We don't seem to have had the amount of rain that you have had down south but I see that we have some moving in and that the weather is due to go colder with a heavy northwest wind.  Had to hapne of course as one of my sons is arriving here today for a week's break.  Oh well, he will be prepared after the battering that the LOG has been getting !!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Sue on January 02, 2010, 21:14 PM
A lovely sunny day here so a trip out was in order as we have been feeling a little trapped. We went to visit the Roman ruins of 'Acinipo' where the gatekeeper / caretaker was keeping the gate closed in the hope that he coud take the day off as no-one would brave the step in the road created by a landslip during the recent heavy rains. He was especially sullen when we turned up followed by others - though mostly onfoot, having sensibly parked along the good piece of road  8)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on January 03, 2010, 10:13 AM
Hi All
Well we have not seen anything like the present weather in León, apart from all the snow over the Christmas period, which has now disappeared, it is grey, misty and miserable, cannot remember when the sun shone last. It so reminds me of an English winter. Thankfully we have been spared any disastrous rain as in the South and far Northwest, but it is really depressing, I thought I had put this type of winter far behind me, still mustn´t grumble (Sp. anyone ). Glad you had a nice day Sue and Clive, I love Roman ruins
Regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on January 03, 2010, 18:17 PM
Evenin' all,

We've been reduced to watching all of the amazing weather that the Southern Contingent have ben enduring on the telly!

I loved Lucy's comment about the weather here in Catalonia being "schizophrenic", although perhaps 'bi-polar affective disorder' might be more on the mark - at least with regard to how it's made the inmates of Casa Rafela feel - that's me, the missus and the doggies, folks!

The business of successivive fronts that don't really amount to much has finally worn us down and I've come back to the smoke early to avoid yet more too-ing and fro-ing over Els Reis. I can also get a head start on the old filthy lucre department  :dancing: before heading back to the hills after the predicted cold snap is over - we're in the middle of re-pointing the masonry so need some reasonable weather!

Sorry to have got your location wrong, Tony and Paul, thanks for the pointer.  Especally the link to eltiempo.es (http://en.eltiempo.es/). Your right, Paul, the Meteocat service is excellent, but weather forecasts here are seriously hampered by such a feeble showing of the true Atlantic systems as they develop - a bit of parochial politikx methinks  >:D

That's enough for now I guess - Happy New Year to you all!

Regs

Simon

Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Spanish Footsteps on January 07, 2010, 13:53 PM
Hi all

Happy New Year, Feliz Ano Nuevo

Spent our Christmas with the family in Alicante so the weather was fairly mild.  We are now back in Soria and have had our first snow fall for 2010.  Luckily they seem to deal with it a bit better than in the UK.  We are expecting the temps to fall tonight to a low of minus 3 which isnt too bad, but will drop further to a low of minus 9 later on the weekend.  The daily temps are around 5 degrees but the cold here is very dry and not the sort that gets into your bones.

The best thing about going out for walks after a snowfall is ilooking out for all the fauna footprints in the area and identifying them.  Also getting a fire going with our free 'suerte' of Roble (oak) firewood, which burns well and gives off an amazing aroma around the village.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lisa on January 07, 2010, 21:47 PM
Been snowing on and off all day in the Picos. Proper big flakes at times at 300m and more forecast for tomorrow with temp's dropping even more. I hear it's heading up the Med. coast so hope you Cátalans are wrapped up  :santa_cool:
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: glennie on January 07, 2010, 21:54 PM
The usual snow failing to lie in Madrid.

All precipitations have come to a halt and it would now be nice to get out of the city after the encierro of the past couple of weeks to see the winter wonderland. But temps are going to plunge, making snowy roads treacherous, and winds are going to howl.

So we remain trapped in the city. Boy oh boy!  :'(

Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Simon on January 08, 2010, 06:12 AM
Mornin' all

Yup, it's pretty miserable here on the coast of Catalonia. As I write this it's still too dark to see (and all I can see from my window is Roman masonry!) but the satellite image (http://www.meteocat.com/mediamb_xemec/servmet/marcs/marc_e_radar.html) I get from the weather service does not bode well at all - brrr (freezing) and ugh (cold). The best we've been able to do for the last 24 hrs is get the dogs more than 100 metres from the house to do their you-know-whats!

Looking forward to a few bracing walks over the weekend though - but taking heed of Glennie's warning we might stay on the beach :dancing:

Cheers

Simon

PS paradoxically I'm planning my long summer campng trip right now!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on January 08, 2010, 08:36 AM
Woke up to 6 inches of snow here this morning and white out conditions.
Whilst I have seen snow on the mountains of the Els Ports it is the first time I have seen it lying on the ground outside since arriving here in 2005.
Son also managed to put the car in a ditch last night whilst driving home from the local bar - apparently skidded pm ice ((so he says).  Have to go out shortly (ughh) to see what the damage is if I can find the car under all the snow higher upin the mountains.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lisa on January 08, 2010, 13:01 PM
There's an ominous silence from down Grazalema way. I hope Mr and Mrs Noah haven't been washed away, the pictures were bad enough before these latest downpours.........
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on January 08, 2010, 13:45 PM
Hi All
In León, Cold 0 degs daytime temp, slight snowfall in the City, the mountains around us are deep in snow, but at least it is warmer than the highlands of Scotland (-22 degs. yesterday) my Mum is holidaying there with my Sister, they were hoping to drive her south today to Warwickshire, but who knows how they will get on  ???
regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: parthenope on January 08, 2010, 19:53 PM
We even have snow in Cornwall!

It was -5 C when parthenope left for work this morning at 7.40am, nowhere near as bad as Scotland but it made for an interesting journey with the first 4 miles of the 12 mile trip on untreated iced over snow. Can't understand why none of my neighbours have gone to work for the last three days 8)

Regards
Steve
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Sue on January 08, 2010, 22:59 PM
 :sign:    Mr and Mrs Noah reporting in to say that the floods have subsided for now.  :dancing:
Have still to retrieve the driveway's gravel from the river bank, temporarily filled the worst holes with the rocks carried in by the floods
There is a dusting of snow on the peaks around us and tonights temperature is a fresh 2ºc with a clear sky (low of -2ºc last night)
Stay warm folks!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on January 10, 2010, 09:25 AM
Well they have finally sent the snow plugh up to Alfara so  I might now be able to get up the road to see what damage my son and his friend hae done to the car !!
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on February 19, 2010, 20:40 PM
Greetings All,
While most of Spain (Peninsula & Islas) is suffering climatic hardship, just a quick update from sunny Madrid  :technodevil:

Day started cloudy, started snowing middayish, and this afternoon, early evening bright blue skies. Temp. bearably chilly.

A warm hug of Technopat solidarity to y'all out there in the throes of an especially harsh and wet winter: Iñigo in Jeréz, Sue, Sam 'n' Clive in Grazalema and the Mollymawks in the Canarias, and all the others too many to mention, who may have been wrong-footed by the treacherously misleading last ten years of mild winters.

Taking for granted that those of you who've chosen to live in Picos and near Mulhacén, etc. are having the winter of your dreams and are suitably kitted out.

Warm-hugs-floating-out-to-y'all-over-hyperspace regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on February 19, 2010, 23:01 PM
I have been thinking lately of Jill and the Mollymawk crew anchored somewhere down in the Canarias.... Not replying to my emails or logging in here at the forum so I can only assume the worst ................that they have "up anchored" and gone of to somewhere tropical and warm where coconuts fall from the trees ready made into chocolate covered candy bars and fair young Amazonian type scantily clad women rub aromatic oils into tired sailers limbs....... uhh oh....... back to the real world where they are still in the Canarias hanging on to the yard arm that has been spliced by Caesar's laptop and reinfoced with various spines of "A girl and two gulls".... :) (What is a yard arm anyway? Tis the only boat related thing I could think of apart from anchors, sails and fish things..... )

In Grazalema it has been raining for two months and now it has decided to be cold as well.... Cyclic weather patterns me thinks and depending on who you speak to we are in a once in 25 years cycle or never in my memory cycle or... I remember this when I was a nipper cycle..... :)

Either way, the reservoirs are full and my house is growing mould from the inside out and it's time the sun came out again... Please? Cmon even Tablas de Daimiel is recovering a bit..........
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lisa on February 20, 2010, 22:47 PM
I happened to be in the same room as a tele this a.m. (well ok it was my bedroom) and heard that the Sierra de Grazalema has had a year's average rianfall in the last two months, and it's still coming. Orchids in the garden should be spectacular!
And, yes, we have lots of snow in the Picos and have been "snowed in" here (@300m, school makes me particularly wimpy) twice so far  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Bob M on February 21, 2010, 10:49 AM
I must say it's quite strange to be up her in the Basque country at the moment.  It's a bit cold and wet, but that's no more than our typical winter.  Whereas in other parts of the peninsular and its islands it looks like the world is coming to an end.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Maria on February 21, 2010, 12:59 PM
Yes us here in the Sierra Nevada area have so far survived the deluge of water that keeps getting poured on us. The Rio Lanjaron was rebuilt during a couple of dry days, just in time for the next lot of rain! Landslides all over and like Clive we have mould growing from the inside out of the house but that seems to be the worst of it so far, compared to some parts of Spain.

The snow, obviously, is incredible, nearly 5m, but making it hard work to get anywhere in the mountains either with snowshoes or skis. We had a group yesterday attempt Mulhacen, it was their only window in the weather, but it took them 8.5hours to get to the Poqueira refugio, normally it takes 3hours, today they are heading out!

Thoughts are with the people on the island of Madeira today.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on February 21, 2010, 19:46 PM
The central coast of Catalunya has been unusually rainy this winter - something like 2 out of every 3 days this year so far have been wet. But the other unusual thing is that it's been a steady kind of rain, not torrential downpours, so it's all getting soaked up by the land without any damage.  Alot of forgotten streams in Collserola have revived, and everything's covered in lichen and shaggy moss. 
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on February 21, 2010, 22:41 PM
Well here in the sierra de Grazalema two of the three dams fed by the rio Guadalete that sources in Grazalema are full and overflowing..... Houses in Jerez de la Frontera downstream have been flooded by the thousand on numerous occasions.... Images on tv of aeroplanes stranded at Jerez airport sitting in a metre of water was a bit odd I must say...

The third reservoir here at Zahara de la Sierra has about 2 metres to rise untill it starts to overflow.... Then the water from the entire draining system of the Sierra de Grazalema will pretty much flow into the Guadalete... If Jerez thinks they got it bad now wait till the Zahara dam overflows... Nothing to hold back the watershed at all.... There is a rumur going around that this dam has hydraulic problems... That they can open the sluice gates to lower the level of the lake slowly but they cant close the sluice gate once opened.... Normally when a reservoir starts to get full in times of excessive rain the level is controlled.... This reservoir is just filling up to bursting without any control.. A bit odd to say the least and hence the rumours going around...

Any way... yasta basta enough rain now thanks... drought is over as far as I am concerned can it be spring now please....... :)

And the news from Madeira is terrible..the images on tv of the raging mud torrents are quite graphic and very scary....
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Petrea on February 23, 2010, 21:25 PM
I agree, no more bad weather! Enough with all the rain - and a week without internet after lightening struck the telephone line, smashing the router, the network card and our best telephone! :banghead:

I enclose our statistics of rain for the almost 3 years, we´ve been here.

As in S. d. Graz., the reservoirs here are quite full, except Viñuela, which may still be able to store a bit more.

Update of statistics, March 1:  Now February ended up with more than 3 times the normal precipitation!
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on February 26, 2010, 18:31 PM
Greetings Petrea,

Great stats! Thanks for posting them.
Bad luck about the lightning damage - does anyone know if such stuff is covered by home insurance policies?

Back on topic, high winds forecast all over Spain this weekend - and what with heavy rains over the last few days (weeks?), resulting in wet feet soil, trees are especially likely to blow over 'cos there ain't nothing solid for their roots to hold on to.

Hold-on-to-yer-hollyhocks malvarosas regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Bob M on February 27, 2010, 11:11 AM
Yes, great graph.

And for this weekend, at least according to this link,:

http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2010/02/25/paisvasco/1267098297.html

I should be expecting winds of up to 180 KPH.  But hey that's only 112 MPH in old money - so no worries.

Bob

Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Technopat on February 27, 2010, 13:32 PM
Greetings All,
Update from sunny Madrid:
Despite dire warnings for the population to stay indoors to avoid falling trees, hoardings and flowerpots, at 1:30pm local time there had been light scattered showers and the sun is now successfully breaking through the very light cloud cover over the city. The proverbial calm before the teacup?

Don't-get-carried-away-by-the-wind regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lisa on February 27, 2010, 15:15 PM
The town hall put up posters here warning of the red alert - a first!

Kids-inside-and-hatches-battened-regards!!!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Bob M on February 27, 2010, 18:42 PM
We were warned to expect the end of the world starting at 3:00 pm.

But it's now 6:45 and it's been quite a nice day.


Bob
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Technopat on February 27, 2010, 19:59 PM
Greetings All,
El parte meteorológico (En. anyone?): As dusk set in half an hour or so ago, blue skies and mild temps. in Madrid.

Darkness has now brought with it rattling shutters - but no more so than on a normally slightly windy day.

Hope a fair wind has been blowing for y'all in the rest of the Ib. Pen. - if nothing else, at least you'll have got all the stuff on the clothes line dry...

Far-from-gone-with-the-wind regs.,
Technopat

Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on February 28, 2010, 09:39 AM
Mornin' all,

So it's all blown over. :technodevil:
Madrid has woken up - some of it, anyway - to bright blue skies and high altitude patches of wispy cloud. Certainly doesn't look as if it going to be a staying-indoors day, whatever the weather folk portend will have us believe.

Hope no-one's garden pagoda has blown down.

Starting-to-think-along-conspiracy-theory-lines-to-keep-the-population-at-home-while-"they"-set-up-nuclear-power-plants-all-over-the-place regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on February 28, 2010, 11:00 AM
Hi All
Same here in León, yesterday,wet windy and miserable, today, bright sunshine, 9th floor terrace survived it all, sounds as if it was bad in the Costa Verde and Northern Portugal. Hopefully this winter will end soon. 8)
Regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Mel on February 28, 2010, 11:25 AM
Yes, I can confirm that we in central Portugal took a batterring yesterday with very high winds and driving rain.

We are right on the Rio Mondego which has been in full flood for several days and it was amazing yesterday to see trees being blown up the river against the current!

Much of the country stiill has no elecrticty today as falling trees brought down power lines. We lost a big oak tree that I estimate was at least 50 years old - very sad but at least that's next winter's firewood taken care of!

Fortunately, the solar array did not blow away and it is a very pleasant, sunny morning here, so we are alright Jack.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Maria on February 28, 2010, 18:29 PM
Strangely yesterday on the "world is going to end day" we had 26C here in Lanjaron with light winds with beautiful blue sunny skys! Not complaining, glad it missed us and sorry for those that it hit!
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on February 28, 2010, 19:00 PM
Greetings All,
As yet another bright sunny day* draws to a close - 2nd in a row - and we now have reports here from the northwest, west, south and central parts of the Peninsula, Perplexed in Madrid wonders what the weather was like in Cataland and Picos.

*Although I was only 4 metres from a storks' nest this afternoon and could see it and its occupants very clearly, the bright sun prevented the pics from coming out.

Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lisa on February 28, 2010, 19:54 PM
Some quite strong gusts last evening/night in the Picos but I hid under the duvet and morning dawned to a green valley, white mountains, blue sky and a raging river  :)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on February 28, 2010, 22:19 PM
All calm in Catalunya except for the Pyrenees, where they recorded some record-breaking gusts on the peaks.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on March 01, 2010, 08:25 AM
Beautiful nice blue skies this morning.
No sign of any storms or wind yet.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on March 02, 2010, 22:24 PM
Fed up now... rain rain rain...... The reservoirs are full and now I own an information centre I feel guilty when visitors come in spouting rubbish about 320 days of sunshine.....

My house is just a fungus trying to get out.....

The cat is really bored and needs to go out before things get nasty...
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: glennie on March 05, 2010, 23:11 PM
Doctors report first cases of Madrileños with webbed feet.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Technopat on March 06, 2010, 13:36 PM
Greetings All,

Water off a duck's back (Sp. anyone?) :dancing:

Bright-grey-skies-in-Madrid regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on March 07, 2010, 20:08 PM
rain
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on March 08, 2010, 09:06 AM
Bright sunshine  :)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Bob M on March 08, 2010, 09:09 AM
The weekend was fantastic though a tad cold. But today, for the first time this Winter, it's snowing.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: nick on March 08, 2010, 11:43 AM
Sleet in Gracià in Barcelona capital! Might even be snowing in some barrios.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: nick on March 08, 2010, 11:50 AM
It's snowing quite heavily!!! Once a year at most...but will it stick? That's only once every 5 years or so.

Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on March 08, 2010, 12:19 PM
Madrid update:
Bright sunshine today & yesterday :dancing: chilly & windy
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Bob M on March 08, 2010, 13:01 PM
I'm always amused by the difference in opinion between my wife and I.

Bob:  Hey look! It's snowing! We can make a snowman, have a snowball fight!  Isn't it beautiful!  Hope it keeps up and we get a couple of feet!   Wouldn't that be fun!

Begoña (wife): Oh no!  It's snowing! The roads will be closed!  We'll have to drive carefully!  Do we have enough food in the house?  Let's hope it stops quickly and it all goes away!

Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on March 08, 2010, 19:27 PM
Yes, Frosty the Snowman is back in the Els Ports as well
 and I've had enough of him.  Wish he would go back to Lapland.  Can we have a fed-up smiley please ?
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on March 08, 2010, 20:29 PM
wild conditions in Barcelona, at least at the end of Diagonal - thick swirling snow, strong winds, branches of pine trees crashing down, thunder and lightning, snow balls flying, mayhem in metro as bus service gets suspended.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on March 08, 2010, 20:44 PM
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Yes, Frosty the Snowman is back in the Els Ports as well
 and I've had enough of him.  Wish he would go back to Lapland.  Can we have a fed-up smiley please ?

:(
Rain!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lisa on March 08, 2010, 21:08 PM
More snow in the Picos  :) (Only because I was considering taking my lemon tree out).
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: nick on March 08, 2010, 23:57 PM
Well, the snow certainly stuck in Barcelona, The heaviest fall in the city for years. I got caught in a near bliizzard on my way to a class in Pedrabes (believe me blizzard and Pedrables don't normally go together). Felt like I was making my through a mountain pass at one moment. Several inches fell in many areas. Un(fortunately) the temperature went up and most of it melted a few hours later though my class and I had time to build a rather mishapen snowman. My metro line wasn't working so I had to sludge in crap wet shoes through the melt to another line. My shoes were like buckets of water by the time I got home.

Here's a photo from the beach I found on El Pais

(http://www.elpais.com/imagen.php?img=foto_6c2e10a21355830753002cb6ef88f79d.jpg&xl=1)

More great photos here http://www.elpais.com/fotogaleria/espana/nieve/Cataluna/imagenes/elpgal/20100308elpepunac_1/Zes/1

Mnay people have had a nightmare stuck on the motorway or without public transport to take them home...Buses stopped working. Uni finished early, classes in higher areas of BCN closed tomorrow, The city is clearly not prepared for such snowfalls.... 200,000 people without electricty across Catalonia

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/sociedad/frio/nieve/ponen/jaque/Cataluna/elpepusoc/20100308elpepusoc_1/Tes


Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on March 09, 2010, 00:22 AM
This topic that I started in fun after a jibe, long since lost to the mists of the forum database cleansing system and made many moons ago by a certain person living in Madrid who shall remain un-named apart from the fact that he has "patlets".... Is now at 23 pages and is close to thirty thousand views....... Weather? Important? Of course not... :)

Raining in Grazalema....... The wettest place in Spain you know
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: nick on March 09, 2010, 16:48 PM
Here's another one from the beach

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ME9E2RO47rg/S5UvPIF1iTI/AAAAAAAAAQQ/JYFTUESA7Tw/s320/DSC00915.JPG)

From here:

http://www.frombarcelona.com/2010/03/let-it-snow.html
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on March 09, 2010, 19:40 PM
Now the winds are back blowing my fences and god knows what else down.
The one thing that the estate agents don't tell prospective buyers about is the wind.
Every person from the UK that I talk to  hates it and I know that many consider returning back to the LOG because of it.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on March 09, 2010, 20:13 PM
The Barcelona snow storm has even made it to the Guardian:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2010/mar/09/spain?picture=360192825
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on March 09, 2010, 21:04 PM
Boring bright blue skies yet again in Madrid :technodevil:

Though the day started chillyish, by mid-afternoon it had warmed up considerably. And certainly not cold enough to have to wear a coat...

Any bets on Madrid weather for tomorrow, Wednesday? :dancing:

Oh-I-do-wish-I-could-be-at-the-seaside regs.,
Technopat

PS.
Great snapshots!
P*S
30,000 views!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on March 13, 2010, 12:09 PM
Greetings All,
Yet another gloriously sunny day in Madrid this week (though overcast & chilly yesterday) - perfect weather for suffering on the sidelines watching Technopatlet Nº 2 getting aplastado (En. anyone?) under heaps of visiting Portuguese rugger players - and the home team getting thrashed. At least the caldo de cocido will go down well...

Much-rather-be-out-in-the-mountains regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Maria on March 21, 2010, 11:49 AM
Raining here in Lanjaron today. Snowshoeing trip called off  >:(
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Sue on March 22, 2010, 23:00 PM
Warming up in Grazalema now, just enough to bring a gecko out of hibernation :)
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: nick on March 22, 2010, 23:31 PM
Drizzling but at least it's warm
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on March 24, 2010, 20:18 PM
An article in EL Pais talks about this winter having been the most extreme and abnormal since 1900, the usual 40% of high pressure days reduced to 25%, with continuous borrascas (English anyone?) being generated in the Atlantic, sending over cloud and rain, particularly to Andalucia, as various people can testify!

Expert prediction for the spring:

Quote
"De decir algo, lo más probable es que siga la tendencia"

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/sociedad/Adios/invierno/extremo/elpepusoc/20100324elpepusoc_10/Tes
Title: Re: What's the weather doing ON your patch?
Post by: Technopat on March 29, 2010, 20:08 PM
Greetings All,
As of even date, huge drop in temps., ie chilly and windy, since the weekend. Large black clouds looming (Sp. anyone?) and distinct smell of rain in the air.

Lucy: re. yer borrascas, how 'bout "areas of low pressure"? Which I suppose means thunderstoms, etc. Nick?

Of course, the adjective, borrascosas, would be "wuthering" :dancing:

Hold-on-to-yer-brollies regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on March 29, 2010, 23:36 PM
Rain, cold, windy.... Me flipflops are getting paranoid about being abandoned for too long...
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on March 30, 2010, 07:00 AM

There isn't really a good single word for borrasca.  There's one passing right now.

looming could be amenazando
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on March 30, 2010, 09:05 AM
Well, weatheronline told me that there was not going to be any rain in this area for over a week.  So yesterday I finally uncovered the pool and started to repaint for the season.  What happened over night - rain !!  Just hope that my work has not been too damaged when I go out to look.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on April 12, 2010, 19:22 PM
Piddling down with rain yet again, and more forecast for the week.
Hope that things improve for those of you attending the summit.  Unfortunately I will not be with you as we have visitors over that particular weekend.
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on April 14, 2010, 23:25 PM
Greetings All,
Aviso para navegantes (En. anyone?): I know I have had occasion before to remind the good folk here at iberianatureforum who happen to live here in sunny Spain that "When in Spain,..." ie http://www.aemet.es/es/eltiempo/prediccion/espana is where it's at. weatheronline indeed!

At least all this water will be good for the crops (?) and for those of us having to stick tent pegs into the ground at the up-and-coming Summit.

Drizzly regs. from Madrid,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on April 15, 2010, 09:55 AM
Its cold and wet in Grazalema....... Everything is green and healthy, reservoirs are full to overflowing... Sunshine now please?

Seriously, what an incredible contrast to last year when the reservoirs were almost empty and the ground here was dust
Title: Re: What's the weather doing on your patch?
Post by: Technopat on May 05, 2010, 14:57 PM
Greetings All,
Windy and chilly - but sunny - in Madrid.

The drive back to Madrid from the Summit included a pretty hairy pass through Zaragoza, which apart from the miles of major roadworks along the ringroad and beyond, was the windiest this driver has ever experienced. Yours truly is still suffering from agujetas (En. anyone?) in the antebrazos (En. anyone?). The high winds have since hit Madrid and the sky is full of plastic bags and newspapers flying high above the buildings and sand from sundry building/road works flying into people’s eyes. Accompanying major drop in temps.

Hold-onto-yer-hollyhocks regs.,
Technopat
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on May 05, 2010, 18:27 PM
Hi All
Very windy in León, causing the partial collapse of one of my decorative arches (perhaps not a good idea 9 stories up), it is also quite cold, and the forecast is rain for the next week, That's it I´m going back to England, I warned the weather this would happen if it did not keep the sun shining on me every day, and rained only between midnight and 5:00am  ::)
Regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on May 06, 2010, 09:23 AM
Exactly the same here in the Els Ports, Southern Catalonia.  Not what I moved to Spain for.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: nick on May 06, 2010, 10:10 AM
Are we in May?
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: lucy on May 06, 2010, 22:47 PM
A fresh metre of snow on Montseny! 
After 48 hours of rain, when Wednesday morning dawned dry, the bird ringers at the Llobregat Delta were working flat out as the migrant bottleneck cleared - one ringer reported 100 birds just for Wednesday morning, when he normally does 25 in a day.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: tonyninfas on June 09, 2010, 09:53 AM
Piddling down with rain once again here in the Els Ports with more due for several days starting on Saturday.  Seems that we are due for an English summer this year !!   :banghead:
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Dave on June 09, 2010, 11:21 AM
Hi All
Wet in the kingdom of León today, we were supposed to be gardening in Torre, but He Ho.
Regards
Dave
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: nick on June 09, 2010, 11:22 AM
Hi Tony,

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Seems that we are due for an English summer this year

Apparantly not...early days for definite prediction though

http://www.iberianature.com/spainblog/2010/06/hot-summer-predicted-for-spain/

Drizzle here. Also two days ago but yesterday very hot.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Petrea on January 06, 2012, 10:51 AM
After a cold period of time we suddenly got 20 degr. early this morning, before sunrise! It is quite windy.

The forecasts predict 6-8 degr. morning temp., so I'm waiting for them to wake up to the realities!  :santa_wink:

Saludos
Petrea
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Bob M on January 07, 2012, 09:32 AM
20 degrees!

Eight and wet in the Basque country. So no change there.
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Petrea on February 04, 2012, 18:50 PM
Spent several hours out in the cold wind today,  insulating water pipes ......................
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on April 29, 2012, 15:14 PM
The rain in Spain falls mainly on Grazalema.......... Nice weather for salamanders..... :)

http://www.grazalemaguide.com/nature-news/34-general-nature/179-weather-in-grazalema.html
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: judith on August 10, 2016, 10:56 AM
Hi everybody,
It´s been a while since I posted ...years in fact!
Regarding the weather, after a few weeks of extreme heat, I woke up this morning to the smell of smoke! Can´t see any signs of it in the sky, but at this time of year we are always concerned when we get that whiff! Hope it´s not a serious fire and that the fantastic forestal bomberos have it under control. Villanueva de la vera in the foothills of the Gredos mountains is where we be!
Title: Re: Whats the weather doing in your patch?
Post by: Clive on August 10, 2016, 13:06 PM
Hi Judith, nice to hear from you.... Fire season is a worrying time thats for sure

Here in Grazalema (the ummmm "wettest" place in Spain) it hasn't rained since May with temps in the high 30's all of July.. It's a bit cooler now but the campo is a true tinder box....