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« on: January 16, 2008, 13:22 PM »
Before I started Iberianature, I had planned on putting together a dictionary of Spain. In the end, I shelved the project and began Iberianature as a guide to the wildlife and geography of Spain. For several reasons, I’ve now decided to pick up on the Spain dictionary project.

http://iberianature.com/spain_culture/

Since abandoning the original idea, Internet has mushroomed and Wikipedia is now a usually excellent source on Spanish historical and cultural matters. Many other specialist sites have also grown up. So why bother writing about something which is already amply covered?

   1. It includes personal opinions and experiences. If I feel like calling Manuel Fraga a fascist, I will. Wikipedia necessarily cannot do this.
   2. Some of the subjects I intend to cover have not, as yet, been dealt with adequately / at all by Wikipedia in English.
   3. Some people like their information presented alphabetically.
   4. Some of the stuff I’ve written on nature and geography can logically be linked into a general guide to Spain (dehesa, farming, wolves etc)
   5. Entries will be in English but many will be able to be accessed either from the Spanish or English term gripe española or Spanish flu. http://iberianature.com/spain_culture/culture-and-history-of-spain-s/the-spanish-flu/

Working order

I ain’t got one. I might include whatever I happen to be reading about, something I hear or something someone tells me. This is the same chaotic approach as I’ve used with Iberianature proper. So far not much is done.
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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2008, 13:58 PM »
Blimey Nick Iberianature just keeps getting bigger..... :)

I think you are absolutely right being able to write articles from a personal point of view and not be constrained by a set of corporate "rules" telling you what you can or cannot mention...

My system of writing is to have a list of things do do... Whilst I am writing the things on that list I come across other subjects that need writing about so I create a second list and try to finish the first list. The secondary list of things to do is always bigger than the initial list.... It's quite chaotic but works for me....

Well done Nick I think Iberianature just gets better...

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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2008, 18:44 PM »
Hi Nick
Love it!
SueMac
ps
Added a few more people to my list and in the process of research some more
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2008, 22:27 PM »
A lifetime's work and a lifetime's reading. Well, for me anyway. Juancarlismo - love it  :clapping:
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2008, 23:18 PM »
Though the Juancarlismo entry is a bit of a blatent rip off at the moment
Nick
http://iberianature.com/barcelona/history-of-barcelona/spanish-civil-war-tour-in-barcelona/
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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2008, 15:15 PM »
Greetings Nick 'n' All,
(To paraphrase Clive), Iberianature gets biggerer 'n' betterer!
Regs.,
Technopat

PS.
Does that mean the iberianatureforum doesn't have a "set of corporate rules" either ... :technodevil: ?
Reason I ask is 'cos there are loads of things that need to be said 'bout recent/current developments in Spain and Spanish politics regarding the coming elections, etc. and which might be of use to those living outside the country - or indeed those living here but who do not yet have enough of a grip/grasp of the language ...
Technopat's disclaimer: If this posting seems over the top and/or gets your goat (Sp. anyone?), please accept my apologies and don't take it personally - it's just my instinctive tendency to put my foot in it whenever/wherever possible. See also:
http://www.iberianatureforum.com/index.php/topic,266

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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2008, 16:37 PM »
Thanks TP,

Must admit I'm nervous about outcome.
I think you can thunder away in the "History and contemporary issues" board

Building up this one at the moment. Additions gratefully received:

http://iberianature.com/spain_culture/culture-and-history-of-spain-f/quotes-by-franco/
Nick
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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2008, 18:11 PM »
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Does that mean the iberianatureforum doesn't have a "set of corporate rules" either ... technodevil ?
Reason I ask is 'cos there are loads of things that need to be said 'bout recent/current developments in Spain and Spanish politics regarding the coming elections, etc. and which might be of use to those living outside the country - or indeed those living here but who do not yet have enough of a grip/grasp of the language ...

As far as I am concerned everybody here has the right to say what they want just so long as it is polite and said with respect to the other points of view and with the knowledge that some people have more of a grasp of the Iberian languages and systems than others.

There are sufficient boards here to be able to comment, vent and discuss virtually every aspect of Iberia.

However, this is the forum that has become very quickly the best resource to find out about the "nature" of Iberia. I believe that there are hundreds of forums discussing politics, sport and war.

There is only one iberianature forum

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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2008, 18:35 PM »
Greetings Clive,
Points taken - and agree totally. That's one of the functions of the Administrator's 'At: to keep a watchful eye over straying sheep  :dancing:

But you know I can't resist tangents ...

Regs.,
Technopat

PS.
And with the time I spend here at iberiantureforum I certainly don't have time to check out other forums - even if I were interested.
Technopat's disclaimer: If this posting seems over the top and/or gets your goat (Sp. anyone?), please accept my apologies and don't take it personally - it's just my instinctive tendency to put my foot in it whenever/wherever possible. See also:
http://www.iberianatureforum.com/index.php/topic,266

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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2008, 21:22 PM »
You're right Clive, but I think that the history, etc board is sufficiently far down the pecking order of boards to not dilute the major areas of the forum
Nick
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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2008, 00:05 AM »
I'm enjoying this.
http://iberianature.com/spain_culture/culture-and-history-of-spain-a/autarky/

Franco himself was remarkably ignorant of simple economics, and at times placed his faith in hair-brained schemes which he believed would save Spain. On one occasion a Czech engineer and con-man managed to convince the general that with the waters of the River Jarama, certain herbs and secret powders, Spain could get all the petroleum it needed.  On another, he was convinced of a plan to solve the country’s terrible hunger of the 1940s by feeding the population with dolphin sandwiches. It is unsure where Spain would get enough dolphin meat to feed 30 million people. (adapted from La Memoria Insumisa, Nicolás Sartorius y Javier Alfaya, 1999)
« Last Edit: January 18, 2008, 00:07 AM by nick »
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http://iberianature.com/barcelona/history-of-barcelona/spanish-civil-war-tour-in-barcelona/
Spanish Civil War Tours in Barcelona
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A guide to the environment, climate, wildlife, & nature of Spain
The Amazon/Forum Bookshop - lend us a hand
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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2008, 01:46 AM »
Greetings All,

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Franco himself was remarkably ignorant of simple economics,
is just about the nicest thing one can say about the man ...
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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2008, 11:13 AM »
hare-brained not hair brained!
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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2008, 20:38 PM »
Greetings Nick,
Well spotted! Should've noticed it meself but I was letting my feelings get the better of me ...
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http://www.iberianatureforum.com/index.php/topic,266

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« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2008, 21:38 PM »
Hola

Great idea Nick, does this mean you will be 'digging up' the past?

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« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2008, 21:50 PM »
A great idea Nick.........

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« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2008, 01:08 AM »
Just a couple more for Nick (if you haven't already come across them):
http://www.elpais.com/todo-sobre/persona/Francisco/Franco/Bahamonde/2557/

which includes this one:
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ENTREVISTA: DONATO FUEJO Ex presidente del CSN
"El dictador soñaba con tener armas nucleares"
JOSÉ MARÍA IRUJO 18/01/2008
http://www.elpais.com/articulo/espana/dictador/sonaba/tener/armas/nucleares/elpepiesp/20080118elpepinac_12/Tes

Regs.,
Technopat
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« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2008, 22:22 PM »
Thanks TP. Had seen the Spain nuke story but not the Franco archive.

Yes, Spanish atomic bomb stories is just what we want! Will include.
Nick
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« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2008, 10:13 AM »
Hi Nick

While researching my list I was wanting to discover something  about women suffrage having discovered Clara Campoamor and her remarkable stand - then realised that the whole thing thing about spanish universal suffrage  is a shocking story and helps one understand better the remarkable things that are happening now in Spain and underpinning  many of the present day changes and debates.  I will probably do a bit myself on it for the other place but would also like suggest it as an item  for your Dictionary.
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« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2008, 10:41 AM »
Hi Nick

This may interest you.
At the train station in Almazan, Soria, there is a carriage that is currently being restored.  It was used by Franco and Hitler during their  'secret' meeting during the 2ww.

If you like I can find more info for you and pass it on.

Regards
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