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red growths SOLVED Common Lime - nail galls

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« on: May 24, 2008, 11:45 AM »
I'm not even sure if they are fungi.  They also look like roots or little worms, less than 1 cm high.  There wasn't anything on the underside of the leaves. Any ideas what these growths are?
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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2008, 14:24 PM »
More than fungus it looks strongly as "agallas" (I don´t know the word in english for this  ... GILLS???). Here you have some examples http://www.insectariumvirtual.com/galeria/Agallas-provocadas-por-insectos-cat22.html .

If so, there is a reaction on the plant, when some insects put their eggs on it... then the plant develops these bio-formations that the insect uses for putting its eggs inside.

CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THE PLANT NAME? ... It would be easier.


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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2008, 14:31 PM »
Galls, J. & M.A.
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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2008, 14:33 PM »
Greetings All,
Today's biology lesson in English:
Fish have gills;
Trees have galls; and
Technopat has guts(Sp. anyone?)  :technodevil:

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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2008, 14:57 PM »
co........s sorry, agallas.
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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2008, 15:23 PM »
A quick search on the net for "agallas rojas" found that Iñigo has been researching some similar growths on Eucalyptus. Not the same, but a start........
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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2008, 15:55 PM »
Greetings Lisa and All,
Great detective work, there! Good to see Iñigo's on the gall ball (Sp. anyone?) :dancing:
So our keywords are:
red gall/agalla roja - gall wasp/avispa gallarita - and whatever-the-tree-is.

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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2008, 16:06 PM »
PS.
If the leaves are those of a tree, they look very similar to Lime/Tilia.
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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2008, 18:30 PM »
Greetings Lucy and All,
Bingo!  :dancing:
Common Lime - nail galls - Eriophyes tiliae - A mite (as in ácaro rather than wasp)
http://www.hainaultforest.co.uk/3Other%20tree%20galls.htm (bit more than halfway down the page).
Keep-'em-coming regs.,
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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2008, 18:37 PM »
PS.
Googling gives me the following two references to our wee mite at insectariumvirtual but I can't get the links to work - anyone? - maybe it's just a temporary thing.

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Eriophyes tiliae - Otros artrópodos (arácnidos, miriápodos ...
Título: Eriophyes tiliae Categoría: Otros artrópodos (arácnidos, miriápodos... ) Comentario: Puente San miguel Cantabria Habitat: - Localidad: -, -
www.insectariumvirtual.com/galeria/Eriophyes-tiliae-img11230.html - 18k - En caché - Páginas similares

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Eriophyes tiliae (ácaro) (="agallas sesiles") - Agallas provocadas ...
Título: Eriophyes tiliae (ácaro) (= ... las produce un ácaro eriófido, Eriophyes tiliae. 13-07-07 22:42:26, Offline David Molina · tripodevillena at ...
www.insectariumvirtual.com/galeria/Eriophyes-tiliae-ácaro-%3D%22agallas-sesiles-img1652.html - Páginas similares
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« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2008, 19:22 PM »
Thank you TP, Lisa, Jesús and Miguel Angel.
 
Fabulous team work.  It would have been galling (Sp. anyone?) not to get them properly ID’d.

I found these further snippets of information:
The mites TP mentions are

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microscopic and secrete chemicals into the underside of the leaf whilst feeding. The chemicals cause the tissue cells to grow abnormally. Apparently, the galls are hollow and the mites live inside them during the summer months.

The Study of Galls is known as Cecidology


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« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2008, 20:14 PM »
Greetings gAll,
Talking 'bout team work and gall reminds me of something I said 'bout Lisa many moons ago :angel:
http://www.iberianatureforum.com/index.php?topic=324.msg3218#msg3218

Regs.,
Technopat

PS:
For galling, I get the following:
mortificante and "much as it galls me..." = aunque me duele/reviente
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« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2008, 22:04 PM »
The link at INSECTARIUM VIRTUAL is running now finely (22.03 h _ spanish hour).

Congratulations, TP...

Here you have more info about this gall

http://www.pflanzengallen.de/verzeichnisundfotos-t.html

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« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2008, 06:45 AM »
Talking 'bout team work and gall reminds me of something I said 'bout Lisa many moons ago :angel:
http://www.iberianatureforum.com/index.php?topic=324.msg3218#msg3218

Regs.,
Technopat.

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