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« on: February 15, 2007, 14:34 PM »
While investigating a possible trip I came across this excellently named village in Cantabria

- Aldea de Dosamantes

Which set me off looking for more odd names:

Los infiernos (Murcia)
Guarromán (Jaén)
Rumoroso (Cantabria)
Elciego (Álava)
Sancti-Espiritus (Castilla y León)
La Hoz de la Vieja (Teruel)
Venta de las Ranas (Asturias)

More to come
« Last Edit: February 15, 2007, 22:37 PM by nick »
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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2007, 17:17 PM »
Nick
This is a topic I love, despite my Spanish relations always scoffing 'it is just a name' so here we go
El Burgo Ranero Leon just off the A231 - thought to be an old village were they bred frogs for the table
Mansilla del las Mulas, Leon N601 - an old mule market town, Mansilla was the name of a local noble family
Villamoros, N601 Leon - presumed an old moorish settlement
Villanueva de las Manzanas, Leon - Apple growing
Valverde Enrique, Leon N601 - Henry's green valley - it is a lovely spot, so Henry was right
La Seca (the dry), Leon - no idea why, as a river runs through it
La Cortina ( the curtain), Leon off the AP66- possibly named after the shape of a local cliff
Leon - not from Lion as expected but a corruption of Legion as the 7th Roman Legion, the Gemini, were based here, to guard the gold route from the goldmines from Las Medulas,El Bierzo, to Rome.
As you say lots more to come
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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2007, 18:10 PM »
There are two very sleepy Catalan villages quite close to each other in the Baix Emporda called Ultramort and Matajudaica.  It must have been rough round there in the past.

Continuing on the dark side, there's an amazingly named puerto in Asturias: el puerto del pozo de las mujeres muertas.

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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2007, 18:32 PM »
Dear All
What about Despeñaperros on the road from Madrid to Cordoba, not so much a village name but a pass, I puzzled about this name for weeks, before finding the very macabre reason for the name, which literally means to throw a dog down, despenar (to fling down) perros (dogs). It transpires that after the battle of the naves of Tolosa 16th July 1212, the Navarran king Sancho VII 'el Fuerte', ordered his troops to throw the Moorish prisoners (the so called dogs), over the cliffs in this area. not sure what it was called before that
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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2007, 22:20 PM »
Dave, we should get a sub-list going of "Iberian villages named after frogs" what with your El Burgo Ranero and my Venta de las Ranas

And here is Lucy's bleak pass El Pozo de las Mujeres Muertas

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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2007, 13:29 PM »
Bleak but beautiful!
(Apart from the unfortunate name and its probable dark history).
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2007, 11:04 AM »
Hi All
Just passed a couple of new frog villages yesterday, in fact have probably passed them several hundred times,
and so for all you frog lovers out there give it up for 'Raneros, Leon' and 'Quintana de Raneros', right next door
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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2007, 16:23 PM »
Greetings All,
Village near where we go hiking in Guadalajara, some 120 km NNE of Madrid: Campillo de Ranas.
Also remember being amused by the name of a street in another little village north of Madrid, La Cabrera: Calle del Sapo.
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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2007, 16:34 PM »
Come to think of it, pretty sure there was (were?) both a Frog Lane and a Toad Lane back in London.
And then of course our very own Toad Hall.
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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2007, 18:13 PM »
Dear All
Away from the Frog thread, try saying that after a few San Miguels,
Villanubla - Valladolid - there are two, no sorry only one, pity the pilots as this is Vallodolid Airport.
Villaviciosa - Asturias - the people seemed quite pleasant to me, great birding area.
Camas - Asturias - if you need a bed for the night
Bones - Asturias - Ok the name is only funny in English
Bores - Asturias - once again only strange in English
Camping - Cantabria - yes it is the village name, not what they provide
Sol - Cantabria - So this is where it lives
Boo - Cantabria - Another funny only in English
more soon
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« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2007, 18:50 PM »
Greetings Dave,
Great post (posting?)!
Not sure that our friendly neighbourhood moderator, Nick, will approve of these loose threads heading off in weird directions but I reckon that if we get them in while he's off in the wild somewhere at weekends, we could argue that they help us get a clearer picture of the nature of Spain (and Portugal) by bringing us all closer to the salt of the earth, me lad.

For those of you newish to Spain (and Spanish), viciosa (as in Villaviciosa) is a false friend, i.e. it looks like vicious in English but doesn't mean quite the same (words like actualmente/constipado, and hundreds more). The actual (ha! ha!) meaning is more along the lines of immoral, perverse and addicted (as in sex, gambling, etc.).

Sorry for spelling out the punchline, but sometimes these things get lost in translation.
I'm outta here!
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« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2007, 18:53 PM »
And no, I'm not subtly suggesting we should open up a board for false friends - but if we can slip the odd one in every-now-and-then, maybe Nick wouldn't notice, being as he is, so pre-occupied with more serious matters such as wildlife issues.
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« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2007, 19:31 PM »
Dear Technopat
while I would agree viciosa means depraved, according to my dictionary Collins, means vicious or depraved person as in English, but there you go dictionaries, can't live with them, can't live without them
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« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2007, 19:44 PM »
Now you know why I don't have the Collins! It's for all you guys and gals that get conned (sorry, talked) into buying a 'good' dictionary by a salesperson in a department store (no names) or any old bookshop. And no, I do not work for, or have shares in, the competition!
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« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2007, 19:47 PM »
Have just come across a 1956 Vol. I (Aba - Aldeaquemada) of the Diccionario Geográfico de España published by ... wait for it ... Ediciones del Movimiento*. The prologue has an interesting reference to other similar works and a fascimile of Ensenada’s 40-item Interrogatorio (interested Nick?) http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catastro_de_Ensenada. So if anyone wants to know what their village was like c.1953-5 as far as mindless stats. are concerned and it falls within the scope of Vol. I, I’d be pleased to check it out and/or scan and post it.

*For those of you new to Spain, or for those of you discovering a newfound interest in Spain’s modern history, El Movimiento was Franco’s idea of politics – see a badly-translated English version of the Wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movimiento_Nacional.

Some random items from Vol. I:
A village very near my in-laws, in Toledo, had in those days under fauna: zorros, lobos, perdices, conejos y liebres. A region known for its hunting, it still has plenty of the latter 3, but unfortunately neither of the first 2.

Curious placenames (which is why I came to this thread in the first place) that I’ve come across so far:
El Ajo
Acebo
Aceituna
Aguas
Agallas
Águilas
Adiós
Alacrán

El Ajo, (Ávila), has under
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Mejoras observadas desde 1940: Desdoblamiento de la escuela mixta en dos unitarias.
And under Fiestas populares: El día de San Antón (7 de enero) – los mozos se dedican a correr los gallos; esta diversión consiste en colgar un gallo de una cuerda, pasar por debajo del animal vivo galopeando en un caballo y conseguir arrancarle la cabeza desde la cabalgadura.

Regs.,
Technopat
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« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2007, 20:04 PM »
Anything for

Algodonales

Alcala de valle

Alcala de los gazules

Acinipo

:)

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« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2007, 00:37 AM »
Greetings Clive,
Alcalá del Valle
Column and a bit, will get kids to scan it at weekend, but in meantime:
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Hay un manantial de ag. minero-medicinales. Vegetación: Hay 357 Ha. de encinar, 583 de encinar con cereal, 706 de quejigal y 259 de m. bajo. Alternando estos productos con zonas de pastos, hay 15 Ha.

Alcalá de los Gazules
2.5 columns (including a half col. of anejos) ditto scanner

Acinipo - no mention
Algodonales - Vol. II?

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« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2007, 18:16 PM »
Hi Everybody
Great new place name
Venta de Baños - Palencia
I wonder if they sell the taps too
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« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2007, 19:24 PM »
So was this place a venta that had baths so weary and hungry travellers could get cleaned up after a day on the dusty road? Or did the owner just have a sideline in flogging baths.. Maybe a cousin who was a plumber or something?

I like matalascañas over at Doñana... I get this picture of frenzied crowds hacking away at the invasive caña del rio (arundo donax)... I wonder if the whole area was cleared and drained to build the town? hmmm :)

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« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2008, 00:22 AM »
Greetings All,
Zapped over here as fast as my two forefingers could hack away at the keys to add alfredo's Abeja to our list.
Don't have access right now to my Vol I of the Diccionario Geográfico de España by Ediciones del Movimiento (I keep it by my bedside table in the village), but I missed that one.

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