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ID. large hairy plant. Solved: Thapsia villosa

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« on: February 12, 2015, 16:40 PM »
This plant has caused me some grey hairs, because I have been on the lookout for any flowers for a couple of years now, but, alas, I have never been able to observe any! So I´ve got no ideas how to ID it!  :speechless:

It is not clear from the photo, but the leaves are usually in a large rosetta on the ground, growing strongly at the  moment.

So please help (perhaps by demanding more specific photos?)

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Petrea

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« Last Edit: June 10, 2015, 11:41 AM by Petrea »
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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2015, 23:49 PM »
Hi Petrea, yes I would need some more photos (A closer look, flowers, fruits...).

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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2015, 08:28 AM »
Yep, a few more images.... :)
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2015, 18:12 PM »
OK, so I went out today to a spot where they grow more readily accessible and got new photos. One is the backside of a leaf. The plant is 30-40 cm wide at present. They look less hairy closeby!

As for flowers and seeds: I would like to see that too! I have been passing by these plants almost once a week for a couple of years without observing any of this!!!  :speechless: That´s just my problem, and I was hoping that the plant was sufficiently conspicuous to be obvious to someone who knew them! They get quite big!

I´ll continue to watch them!

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Petrea
« Last Edit: February 16, 2015, 18:14 PM by Petrea »
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2015, 00:41 AM »
Could it be a member of the Apiaceae family?  Seseli montanum?  Seseli montanum praecox?

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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2015, 07:28 AM »
Hola Silene,

Welcome to this great forum!  sign

As far as I can see from Googled photos,   the Seseli montanum has got too narrow segments of leaves. Unfortunately, because the existence of subspecies with and without hairs could have explained why some (out of reach) look more hairy than others!

But Apiaceae is possible.

Hope I can find some in flower this year. We will probably have to wait quite a while.

Saludos
Petrea

PS. I just came across Thapsia villosa! Looks much like that one. However, I read that it grown in acidic soil, which does not comply with the limestone here!
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« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2015, 11:10 AM »

Thank you all for your kind welcomes!

Maybe you are right with the Thapsia villosa.   I'm curious about it.

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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2015, 19:18 PM »
So now I found some with flowers as well as seeds. Think they are Thapsia villosa.
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« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2015, 19:29 PM »
Ups, had to add the seeds here. Apparently, the plant is somewhat variable, being more or less hairy, color of base of leaves yelloish or reddish, etc.

I add a photo taken April 20 of one of the "mysterous" specimens, which I have been watching. The boot is size 42. The plant has now withered away without any signs of flowers. That has happened before, thus my ID problems!
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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2015, 19:45 PM »
Hi Petrea, I think Thapsia villosa is OK.

Regards.

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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2015, 23:10 PM »
Thanks Andres!    :)
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