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Alicante region: flower ID help

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Offline lazza

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« on: August 21, 2015, 19:52 PM »
I'm not really sure where to start, as my knowledge of the flora of Spain is so severely limited, and as you will see, my general flower knowledge is pretty terrible.

So I hope you will forgive my ignorance asking about so many different flower identities, as I see so many species that I wouldn't see in the UK, and immediately think "oooh, what's that", take a photo, and then find myself at a loss as to where to begin identifying it! I'm sure that for starters I need to buy myself a good guide, but until then, any help on here would be most appreciated!

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« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2015, 20:13 PM »
So, first, a couple of flowers in one picture, that I found a lot of on my recent holiday near Elche.

Firstly, a lovely shrub with very long yellow tube-like flowers. Seen on roadsides in lots of places, but fairly localised.

And in the same photo, the small purple flowers on thin leaf-less shoots springing out of quite succulent, low-lying leaves.



And another photo of the purple flowers:


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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2015, 00:42 AM »
Hi Lazza,
First looks like nicotiana glauca - a tobacco tree as I know them.
Second might possibly be a limonium? Someone more expert than I might confirm this.

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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2015, 09:51 AM »
Thanks Juan.

Limonium looks good. I'll see if I have any better (close-up) pictures. I remember now that there was a lot of this growing at a local Nature Reserve, in a flower bed labelled with many different Limonium species names, but because it was growing everywhere else on the reserve, I assumed it was a weed and the flower bed had not been weeded...!

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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2015, 18:12 PM »
Hola Lazza,

You may be just outside of this region, but just the same, you may find this useful:

Flora Vascular de Andalucía Oriental, see

http://www.iberianatureforum.com/index.php?topic=3404.msg26107#msg26107

A large volume - in Spanish

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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2015, 13:12 PM »
Hola Lazza,

You may be just outside of this region, but just the same, you may find this useful:

Flora Vascular de Andalucía Oriental, see

http://www.iberianatureforum.com/index.php?topic=3404.msg26107#msg26107

A large volume - in Spanish

Saludos
Petrea

Thanks Petrea - that's an excellent guide! I already now identified several flowers from my recent trip. I guess the flora of Andalucía and Valencia are quite similar :)


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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2015, 13:25 PM »
So, a couple more unknowns.

The first was quite widespread growing on roadsides and in my in-laws' garden, and is presumably some kind of Asteracea, maybe a species of Conyza?

The second was a shrub, perhaps 1m tall, growing on the edge of salt-flats near Santa Pola. The fleshy, pinate leaves are confusing me on this.

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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2015, 16:06 PM »
Hi lazza, the first one looks like Conyza sumatrensis.
The second is Limbarda crithmoides.

Regards.

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« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2015, 18:40 PM »
Thanks Andres...

Two more....

The first reminds me of Viper's Bugloss, but not sure if this is right - maybe some other Echium species?

And the second, I'm struggling with, so any suggestions welcome!

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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2015, 19:22 PM »
Hola Lazza!

The second one is a squirting cucumber! Touch a ripe fruit, and you´ll know why (use a long stick!)

By the way: please make a new post for each plant. When you have got an ID, you are expected to change the subject by adding: Solved: name of plant. That will not be possible with more than one plant! Have a look at other ID posts. The idea is to make it easier to find the post later on.

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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2015, 19:38 PM »
Hi lazza, the first one could be Echium sabulicola but it's difficult to say for sure.
The second is Ecballium elaterium.

Regards.

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« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2015, 18:50 PM »
Thanks again, both!

Now, two more unknowns, both seen quite frequently.

The first I think is some kind of Heliotropium species, but I'm not very familiar with this group, so would appreciate some help.

And the second is a shrub seen a lot around dry, scrubby areas, and I have no idea what it is! I noticed that they collected a lot of dew in their feathery leaves on cooler nights.

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« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2015, 19:59 PM »
Hi lazza, the first one is Heliotropium europaeum.
The second Tamarix sp.

Regards.

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« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2015, 10:23 AM »
Hi Lazza, great to see some images of your neck of the woods.... And, getting some identifications..... As Petrea  mentioned, could you start a new topic for your identification questions?... Once you have a positive ID you can then edit the post title to say "SOLVED: name of plant"..... It makes searching the forum a lot easier for old and new members... :) Thanks...
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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2015, 16:06 PM »
Ah, OK, sorry, I completely forgot! Will start different topics from now on.