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Viper snake? Maybe

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Offline royzee

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« on: September 13, 2015, 12:42 PM »
 Hi all
Was just crossing a path in my garden at about 11am and saw a snake which looked quite young.
Im in Malaga and today was warm and sunny at about 28 degrees.
Hes not doing any one any harm, but Im having trouble identifying him.
He was probably about 40cms long. Apologies to all if he is a she! I wasnt looking that closely!
Is there a snake expert here who can tell me what he is. I like to be nosey, lol

Sorry, I now seem to have posted this in insects!!
Cant seem to move it, any one know how?
Thanks
Rob
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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2015, 15:49 PM »
Hi Rob,

This is a harmless horseshoe whipsnake, one of the prettiest here.

I guess that Clive will move this topic for you, when he sees it!

Saludos
Petrea
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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2015, 18:38 PM »
Hi Petrea
Many thanks for the information.
I looked at lots of pictures and they all looked so simmilar, so appreciate the help!
Wish I had known earlier he was a "good one", I would have taken a few more pictures.
Its so nice to see wildlife here in Spain.
Been here for 15 years now and I soooo miss the foxes back in the UK !!

All the best
Rob

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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2015, 19:45 PM »
What, no foxes? I´ve seen some here - and heard them!
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« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2015, 20:14 PM »
Really??
Maybe they dont like the countryside around Alhaurin De La Torre.
We get some owls, some hedgehogs and toads, and thats about all.
Perhaps its all the dogs barking?
Rob

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« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2015, 20:58 PM »
Could be. Perhaps you´re too "civilized" there (have never been there) We´re next to the parque Natural Sierra Tejeda y Almijara.

Actually most snakes you´ll see are "good ones" The adders are rare and prefer to stay at altitudes 800-1200m. I see snakes several times a year. Just the same: it took me 7 years to find an adder:

http://www.iberianatureforum.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=960

http://www.iberianatureforum.com/index.php?topic=4105.msg29356#msg29356
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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2015, 09:26 AM »
Hi
Yes, it looks like you are more rural than where we are. Although we are in the campo, in the foothills, we are very close to villages so I guess the wildlife would be less.
Having said that, of course, we came from London and a fox used to come through the cat flap every night for the cats food!

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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2015, 18:06 PM »
By the way: have you seen the excellent TV series "El Hombre y la Tierra"?

2 episodes are about a fox study. The first one can be watched here:

http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/videos/el-hombre-y-la-tierra/hombre-tierra-fauna-iberica-operacion-zorro-1/1506522/

I´m sure you can find the second, if it does not show up automatically.

I like it very much, in short it is almost like an old childrens poem:

To catch a fox:

First catch a worm. Use it to catch a raven. Catch an eagle using the raven. Then the eagle will catch you some foxes!
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2015, 18:16 PM »
Hi
Thanks so much for the link. Ill enjoy watching those
All the best
Rob